I’m just along for the ride but Federated and Democratic are 2 different things. Also they’re not preventing them from existing and creating content, they’re just not cross-hosting them. I prefer my Lemmy Nazi-Free.
Democracy can’t support Fascism because Fascists only want to abuse the freedoms of Democracy in order to destroy it.
I never said federated and democratic were the same thing. I may have disagreed with past defederation, but at least it was put to a vote first, unlike this one that’s effectively been done as “act first, open for discussion later”, seemingly entirely because one random guy with no history raised a post calling for defederation. That’s not how I want this instance, or really any platform in general, to operate.
seemingly entirely because one random guy with no history raised a post calling for defederation
Did you read any of the linked announcements and is that what you honestly got out of it? Or are you trolling?
I read them and it states pretty clearly that admins tried to contact rammy admins and were unsuccessful, therefore the unmoderated label was correct, therefore remaining federated does open up the admins of our server to illegal child porn.
I’m assuming you’re not going to show up to defend the admin from legal charges with any useful help, so I’d say the admin is justified in prioritizing their opinion over yours (in this case)
This will continue to be the reality of making your home on someone elses’s hardware. If you want to federate with every unmoderated instance out there, MAKE YOUR OWN - and enjoy the legal fees.
Ultimately it’s his instance, his liability if shit goes sideways, so his call to make.
I don’t think it’s the end of democratic anything, and it seems to be more because another instance took action and defederated than the call of a single person, because context matters.
The statement referenced said there was no responsive administration at rammy as reported by a rammy user and attempts to reach admins by others were not successful.
That’s very different from what you’re trying to claim.
I guess you guys gave up on the whole “democracy” thing quickly, eh?
I’m just along for the ride but Federated and Democratic are 2 different things. Also they’re not preventing them from existing and creating content, they’re just not cross-hosting them. I prefer my Lemmy Nazi-Free.
Democracy can’t support Fascism because Fascists only want to abuse the freedoms of Democracy in order to destroy it.
I never said federated and democratic were the same thing. I may have disagreed with past defederation, but at least it was put to a vote first, unlike this one that’s effectively been done as “act first, open for discussion later”, seemingly entirely because one random guy with no history raised a post calling for defederation. That’s not how I want this instance, or really any platform in general, to operate.
Did you read any of the linked announcements and is that what you honestly got out of it? Or are you trolling?
I read them and it states pretty clearly that admins tried to contact rammy admins and were unsuccessful, therefore the unmoderated label was correct, therefore remaining federated does open up the admins of our server to illegal child porn.
I’m assuming you’re not going to show up to defend the admin from legal charges with any useful help, so I’d say the admin is justified in prioritizing their opinion over yours (in this case)
This will continue to be the reality of making your home on someone elses’s hardware. If you want to federate with every unmoderated instance out there, MAKE YOUR OWN - and enjoy the legal fees.
Ultimately it’s his instance, his liability if shit goes sideways, so his call to make.
I don’t think it’s the end of democratic anything, and it seems to be more because another instance took action and defederated than the call of a single person, because context matters.
The statement referenced said there was no responsive administration at rammy as reported by a rammy user and attempts to reach admins by others were not successful.
That’s very different from what you’re trying to claim.