Duckduckgo had trackers in it and didn’t tell anyone, proton gave away data to the swiss government. If a company is for profit it is not to be trusted.
Well, Proton is a Swiss company and, as such, is obligated to comply with legally binding orders like the one they received in the case of the arrested activist.
Expecting someone (or, in this case, a company) to risk legal repercussions just to protect one of their thousands of users is simply ridiculous, even more knowing that similar data access orders are normally issued by the Swiss authorities for really serious crimes.
As for the IP logging, everyone can turn it off in the account settings and Proton, not being subject to data retention requirements under the Swiss law, will delete all the previously saved data.
hardly even coerced. they were following the law, you know those things you have to follow if you want to continue to remain in business and functional. they also gave data post subpoena, nothing before it, so it’s not really anything to be afraid of.
iirc it was interpol on behalf of French government as well, not swiss but I could be wrong on that as it doesn’t matter much.
“Do you trust [company name] ? -No.”
I trust DuckDuckGo and Proton.
Duckduckgo had trackers in it and didn’t tell anyone, proton gave away data to the swiss government. If a company is for profit it is not to be trusted.
Well, Proton is a Swiss company and, as such, is obligated to comply with legally binding orders like the one they received in the case of the arrested activist. Expecting someone (or, in this case, a company) to risk legal repercussions just to protect one of their thousands of users is simply ridiculous, even more knowing that similar data access orders are normally issued by the Swiss authorities for really serious crimes. As for the IP logging, everyone can turn it off in the account settings and Proton, not being subject to data retention requirements under the Swiss law, will delete all the previously saved data.
More info can be found in this article they published just after the incident: https://proton.me/blog/climate-activist-arrest
*proton was coerced into collecting data and giving it to the swiss government
hardly even coerced. they were following the law, you know those things you have to follow if you want to continue to remain in business and functional. they also gave data post subpoena, nothing before it, so it’s not really anything to be afraid of.
iirc it was interpol on behalf of French government as well, not swiss but I could be wrong on that as it doesn’t matter much.
I blindly trusted these two. A lesson learnt.
Duckduckgo didn’t track anyone if I recall correctly.
I think they whitelisted (or it was a bug, can’t remember) some Microsoft trackers.
Not great, but not as bad as it looks.
DuckDuckGo more than Brave Search yep