• Doug Holland
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    13 hours ago

    If/when Gavin Newsom is the candidate, I’ll vote for someone else, or won’t vote.

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      10 hours ago

      Under normal circumstances, sure. If it’s Gavin vs. Trump then I assume you’ll vote for Gavin. Step 1 is get rid of Trump, step 2 is find a candidate that’s actually good. If we can do both simultaneously then that would be wonderful.

      • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 hours ago

        With a corprocrat in charge, the republic will be pushed towards collapse and the same violent thugs working for ICE will be cracking skulls before long. They will doom America to fascism or civil war, and the only way you will ever get stability lasting more than a few years is by taking control from them.

        Trump will never leave office alive, so give up on an election against him. When there is a choice, you’ll be voting for a JD Vance style Republican who is actually the puppet people seem to think Trump is, or you’ll be voting for a Democrat. If that Democrat is a coastal elite who was only rejected by the fascists because Trump didn’t like him, you’ve already lost. The Democrat will have a better chance in the general regardless, so it’s primary or bust.

        Oh yeah, you also need progressives to dominate in 2022 and 2024 down ballot, while the rich only need a king loyal to their corruption.

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        6 hours ago

        Voting blue-no-matter-who has given us a parade of Democrats who stand for nothing, do nothing, and eagerly cooperate with fascism. I’m too old to waste another vote on such a charade.

      • Default Username@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 hours ago

        Therefore, the only option left is for the leftists to take over Democratic party like how the Tea Party and MAGA took over the Republican Party, because if the Democrats run another pro-capital neoliberal after this shitshow, then America is truely done for (assuming we still have a democracy).

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      7 hours ago

      I hope you are running for office if you are looking for the perfect candidate