If he doesn’t support abolishing the Gestapo, he doesn’t have much issue with the harm they cause when it isn’t on the front page.
ICE is a fascist organization, he doesn’t support getting rid of it, he only supports toning the violence down a notch. Otherwise, he would support abolishing ICE
If he doesn’t vocally support it on a fascist propaganda network, then clearly there’s no hope?
ICE is a fascist organization, he doesn’t support getting rid of it, he only supports toning the violence down a notch. Otherwise, he would support abolishing ICE
You don’t actually have evidence that this accurately represents his position - and let me remind you that the only evidence you do have is an out of context quote from Fox News that you are using to condemn someone. You’re just reacting to someone who, in the representation that once again was provided by FOX NEWS, does not meet your standards for what constitutes being progressive.
Jenkins asked Frey whether he supports abolishing ICE in their interview, which will air in full on Wednesday at 8 a.m. EST.
“I do not support abolishing ICE,” Frey said. “However, I absolutely oppose the way that this administration is conducting themselves with ICE. Look, there are a number of entities presently, agencies at the federal government that are—”
“But isn’t that what your lawsuit is about, stopping ICE right now?” Jenkins interrupted.
“No, you should read the lawsuit,” Frey said. “The lawsuit says that, hey, you know — ICE doing ICE stuff is not what we’re talking about right now. Again, we’ve had ICE in our city before, we’ve had ICE in our state before. It is the fact that, look, right now, there are, there’s about 3,000 federal ICE agents in our city between ICE and Border Patrol. You know how many police officers that we have? 600. The kind of duress that our city is experiencing because of this is magnified.”
He explicitly says he does not support abolishing ICE. If you can find any evidence that this that isn’t his position, please share. I haven’t been able to find any.
From what I can find, it seems like his issues with ICE is that they aren’t doing the ethnic cleansing campaigns the legal way, and are causing too much unrest with their show of force. But maybe I missed something
Seems like he doesn’t have a problem with how ICE has operated in Minneapolis in the past, but only now, because there’s been enough public pushback
What point? You said that the quote was out of context and not representative of his actual views. You didn’t provide anything to support that point. I looked for any more context and found none. I found nothing to indicate this his actual view is contrary to his statements.
My point has been that you’re taking the word of a fascist propaganda network as representative of his opinion, which you are continuing to do. Hence not seeing much value in this conversation, you’re demonstrably content to take the word of borderline literal nazis so long as it supports the narrative you’ve been given by, again, borderline literal nazis.
That isn’t the aesthetics of the harm being perceived as the criticism though, that’s direct criticism of the harm and the methods used to do it.
If he doesn’t support abolishing the Gestapo, he doesn’t have much issue with the harm they cause when it isn’t on the front page.
ICE is a fascist organization, he doesn’t support getting rid of it, he only supports toning the violence down a notch. Otherwise, he would support abolishing ICE
If he doesn’t vocally support it on a fascist propaganda network, then clearly there’s no hope?
You don’t actually have evidence that this accurately represents his position - and let me remind you that the only evidence you do have is an out of context quote from Fox News that you are using to condemn someone. You’re just reacting to someone who, in the representation that once again was provided by FOX NEWS, does not meet your standards for what constitutes being progressive.
From the interview
Jenkins asked Frey whether he supports abolishing ICE in their interview, which will air in full on Wednesday at 8 a.m. EST.
“I do not support abolishing ICE,” Frey said. “However, I absolutely oppose the way that this administration is conducting themselves with ICE. Look, there are a number of entities presently, agencies at the federal government that are—”
“But isn’t that what your lawsuit is about, stopping ICE right now?” Jenkins interrupted.
“No, you should read the lawsuit,” Frey said. “The lawsuit says that, hey, you know — ICE doing ICE stuff is not what we’re talking about right now. Again, we’ve had ICE in our city before, we’ve had ICE in our state before. It is the fact that, look, right now, there are, there’s about 3,000 federal ICE agents in our city between ICE and Border Patrol. You know how many police officers that we have? 600. The kind of duress that our city is experiencing because of this is magnified.”
He explicitly says he does not support abolishing ICE. If you can find any evidence that this that isn’t his position, please share. I haven’t been able to find any.
From what I can find, it seems like his issues with ICE is that they aren’t doing the ethnic cleansing campaigns the legal way, and are causing too much unrest with their show of force. But maybe I missed something
Seems like he doesn’t have a problem with how ICE has operated in Minneapolis in the past, but only now, because there’s been enough public pushback
Yeah I’m not seeing much point in continuing this conversation, you’re almost aggressively not engaging with my point.
What point? You said that the quote was out of context and not representative of his actual views. You didn’t provide anything to support that point. I looked for any more context and found none. I found nothing to indicate this his actual view is contrary to his statements.
So didja find anything else to support this being his position?
His own words, which I quoted.
The interview has been reported by multiple outlets, none of which have provided anything that show his quotes are out of context.
That’s your claim, you try to find the context. I’ve already tried, and found none.
My point has been that you’re taking the word of a fascist propaganda network as representative of his opinion, which you are continuing to do. Hence not seeing much value in this conversation, you’re demonstrably content to take the word of borderline literal nazis so long as it supports the narrative you’ve been given by, again, borderline literal nazis.