• eskimofry
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    4 days ago

    One would think ICE would have eaten bullets now in many places considering the years of propaganda saying “Standing militia” and other deluded bullshit like “People with guns can stop government tyranny”.

    Well tyrannical government is here right now? Where’s your “stop kicking in your door” army?

    the ignorance is so palpable when you say this position is centrist while literally trying avoid acknowledging the absentee leftist army of gun wielders.

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    Guess what? Doors are being kicked in right now and idiots like you sit around thinking some gun-wielding hero will appear to save the day. You grew up on military grade consumerist bullshit propaganda to make you feel proud and buy expensive glocks and M1 Carbines.

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      That’s because the right has been the ones to favour guns, while the centrists have favoured gun control. Obviously the right is not the ones having their doors kicked in. Every leftist call to violence has been met with a resounding, "No - That’s what Trump wants, we’ll win at the midterms’.

      ICE retreat from large mobs and snowballs, if a few homes had actually killed them on entering you can bet they wouldn’t still be going door to door.

      And you’re right, doors are being kicked in right now and not a single fucking thing is being done about - first they came for the immigrants and you held a sign, next they’ll come for the trans and you’ll do jackshit again. Anything but get your centrist hands dirty and risk violence onto you.

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        the trans

        hey I get the origin, but this phrasing is dehumanizing. Leave it at trans.

        Also funny to see you reference this, because the first stanza is…

        First they came for the Communists
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a Communist

        And yet I see you everywhere loathing communists and refusing to stand together with communists. You yourself would be celebrating their actions if you experienced it first hand.

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          “The” communists, almost like I was using the language of the poem.

          And I love communists, you seem to think MLs are the only communists, they’re not.

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            Someone didn’t read my comment again! I know you’re looking for a fight, I was trying to be nice and give you a heads up so you don’t dehumanize people. Same thing as when you tried to defend Roma slurs. When it comes to your apparent love of communists, none of your comments or posts differentiate or clarify that. You are hostile to those that identify as marxists, regardless of them being ML or not. Show me a non-Marxist communist.

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              I’m not dehumanising people, it’s no different to saying the gays, the lesbians, or the enbys, we’re all lgbt+ homies.

              None of my post specify that? Are you fucking kidding me, the very fist comment you like literally says

              Marxism and its derivatives

              Gee, why would I single out one specific branch of communism and not any other communists if it was a generalist statement for all communists?

              Oh and hows this from 3 weeks ago :

              I love non-ML communists.

              If you’re going to troll at least do a good job at it because I am getting tired of your shit.

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                  I know exactly what you think you’re trying to say. What matters is context, and as a lgbt person myself there is clearly no negative connotations here when it’s directly referencing a poem and when it’s a common saying in general among members of our group.

                  And look you can’t even fucking admit you were wrong, you continue to double down despite literal evidence to the contrary of your claim. Everything thing about you is in the utmost of bad faith.

                  Marxists and MLs are cut from the same cloth and the same shit authoritarian flaws. Your ignorance of communism is not my responsibility to educate. Go read up on anarchism-communism if you want to learn about the most popular existing type.

                  And this will be the last interaction I have with you as I have noticed you following me around commenting about me in multiple threads all over Lemmy, with a good 1/5-1/4 of your recent post’s talking about me on others replies to my comments, on posts I make, or communities I run. Your snarky site wide harassment is not going to persist on my communities any longer.

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        Lol you think calling me a centrist is a slur but I don’t even identify as a centrist. Hell I don’t indentify as American. Because I am NOT. The rest of the world has figured out how to keep their government in check without rabid 2A mouth breathers who can’t show up to school shootings to prevent something that only happens in America. So much bitching about centrists as if some random person has to give you orders to act. If you actually don’t respect “centrists” then you shouldn’t cry about their negotiations and cheap talk. Unless you actually believe even a sliver of their ideas.

        Centrists are not responsible for your own inaction. Gun control is required even after we depose a corrupt rogue government.

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          Im not American either, and you’ve learnt nothing from history if you think disarming yourself and letting the state rule over you is a good thing.

          And you are either a centrist or a right winger, there is zero fundamental difference. You both enable the same horrors.

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            “You shouldn’t be allowed to own firearms if you can’t spell”

            you advocating disarming

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      there’s extremely few leftists in the united states and even fewer of them are gun owners.

      and overwhelming majority of gun owners are conservative and are also trump lovers; they support ice and i don’t doubt that a majority of ice members are the gun owners you’re referring to.

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        then you should realize that we can’t make progress without gun control laws. I am not a centrist for believing this, unlike the other guy who claimed so. I never said the populace shouldn’t be armed. 2A gun nuts can’t think beyond equating the concept of gun control taking away their guns and rights. This line of thinking screams capitalist propaganda playbook.