How is this math accurate?
Only got back $.10? Ukraine regained 33% or so of their captured land (or 50%-52% regained of the land lost since the second invasion). So, it would be around $16 or $17 (or $25-26 for the second invasion).
So the bully now has now attacked and lost use of several fingers, lost several teeth, and is now deaf in one ear … Same goes for his friend he conscripted to help. Plus his work told him he is getting a pay cut (sanctions)
But I don’t think could deprogram your propagandized brain.
Before 2022, Russia occupied 42,000 km2 (16,000 sq mi) of Ukrainian territory (Crimea, and parts of Donetsk and Luhansk), and occupied an additional 119,000 km2 (46,000 sq mi) after its full-scale invasion by March 2022, a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine’s territory.[8] By 11 November, the Institute for the Study of War calculated that Ukrainian forces had liberated an area of 74,443 km2 (28,743 sq mi) from Russian occupation,[9] leaving Russia with control of about 18% of Ukraine’s territory.
Oh, I see, you’re talking about literally ever single place that Russia walked through at some point in the last 9 years and calling all of that not only “occupied” but also “successfully regained through counteroffensive”. A truly expansive definition.
The rest of the world is instead looking at this through the lens of realism. Through this lens, territory is constantly in a state of flux and much territory cannot actually be held successfully. Russia has expressed its intent quite clearly and it is not the total annexation of Ukraine, so assuming the goal of each deployment is annexation leads to terribly faulty analysis. Instead, we look at how the movement of troops through areas that are not holdable are nevertheless strategically valuable in establishing the perimeter that is holdable. This is where the much vaunted “spring/summer counter-offensive” enters the calculation.
Prior to this counter-offensive, Ukraine was deemed to have lost it’s 2nd full army and was requesting a replenishment from the West in order to keep fighting. This is when all the Western liberals turned into tankies and kept crowing about the awesome tanks that were being sent to Ukraine for the counter-offensive. Since the launch of the counter-offensive, Ukraine has recovered about 10mi, a tiny tiny fraction of the territory. Worse, they have lost a massive portion of their now 3rd army built on these shipments from the West.
You don’t have to believe the BBC, but it certainly runs entirely counter to whatever propagandist BS that wikipedia article reads as.
How is this math accurate?
Only got back $.10? Ukraine regained 33% or so of their captured land (or 50%-52% regained of the land lost since the second invasion). So, it would be around $16 or $17 (or $25-26 for the second invasion).
So the bully now has now attacked and lost use of several fingers, lost several teeth, and is now deaf in one ear … Same goes for his friend he conscripted to help. Plus his work told him he is getting a pay cut (sanctions)
But I don’t think could deprogram your propagandized brain.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66383377
That doesn’t look like 33% to me
Before 2022, Russia occupied 42,000 km2 (16,000 sq mi) of Ukrainian territory (Crimea, and parts of Donetsk and Luhansk), and occupied an additional 119,000 km2 (46,000 sq mi) after its full-scale invasion by March 2022, a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine’s territory.[8] By 11 November, the Institute for the Study of War calculated that Ukrainian forces had liberated an area of 74,443 km2 (28,743 sq mi) from Russian occupation,[9] leaving Russia with control of about 18% of Ukraine’s territory.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-occupied_territories_of_Ukraine
You’re right my math was off: 74,443/161,000=46% liberated based off dated numbers
Currently some places have it as high as 54%
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/world/europe/ukraine-maps.html
Oh, I see, you’re talking about literally ever single place that Russia walked through at some point in the last 9 years and calling all of that not only “occupied” but also “successfully regained through counteroffensive”. A truly expansive definition.
The rest of the world is instead looking at this through the lens of realism. Through this lens, territory is constantly in a state of flux and much territory cannot actually be held successfully. Russia has expressed its intent quite clearly and it is not the total annexation of Ukraine, so assuming the goal of each deployment is annexation leads to terribly faulty analysis. Instead, we look at how the movement of troops through areas that are not holdable are nevertheless strategically valuable in establishing the perimeter that is holdable. This is where the much vaunted “spring/summer counter-offensive” enters the calculation.
Prior to this counter-offensive, Ukraine was deemed to have lost it’s 2nd full army and was requesting a replenishment from the West in order to keep fighting. This is when all the Western liberals turned into tankies and kept crowing about the awesome tanks that were being sent to Ukraine for the counter-offensive. Since the launch of the counter-offensive, Ukraine has recovered about 10mi, a tiny tiny fraction of the territory. Worse, they have lost a massive portion of their now 3rd army built on these shipments from the West.
You don’t have to believe the BBC, but it certainly runs entirely counter to whatever propagandist BS that wikipedia article reads as.