People believe what they want. White people in Turtle Island call themselves Americans, and white people in Africa call themselves Afrikaners. But we are objectively still European :)
History happened. They are now independent of mainland China stop trying to side step the argument with disingenuous deranged semantical theater
They own that island. They live there, they take care of it, they decide how it’s run. Forcing your will on others is clearly a bad thing. The fact autonomy upsets you should be a moment of realization to self reflect on your trash values
LOL. So insightful. History is constructed and exists in the present.
They are now independent of mainland China
No, they aren’t. They are completely dependent on mainland China. Oh you meant politically? So was Hong Kong. You know why? Because the British colonized it. Does that give it legitimate claim to being separate? No. In Taiwan, the British and US didn’t colonize it, they propped up a puppet regime and made it a neo-colony, fully dependent on the West for military and political life, fully dependent on the West and now China for its economic life. Taiwan can, in no reasonable framing, be considered “independent” of anyone.
They own that island
That’s not how private property works. I would expect a capitalist bootlicker to understand the basics of private property.
They live there, they take care of it, they decide how it’s run
They literally ran a terror campaign for 40+ years! They committed mass murders of people who disagreed with them. And they operate the island as a proxy of Western imperialists!
Forcing your will on others is clearly a bad thing. The fact autonomy upsets you should be a moment of realization to self reflect on your trash values.
This is why China isn’t going to invade and occupy. Unlike the West, China understands that this is an unsustainable path towards integration. What they will do is keep pushing the imperialist powers out of the region and continue to develop their economy, their political system, and their diplomacy. They will continue to disrupt Western spy networks, Western propaganda networks, and Western influence campaigns. And through soft power, they will create the conditions for Taiwan to reintegrate.
What you don’t understand is that failure to reintegrate means war with the West. The West wants to fight China but not directly. They will gladly create security problems for China via Taiwan and they will gladly indoctrinate Taiwan and create conditions for Taiwan to get involved in a hot war with China. The US will fight China to the last Taiwanese, just as they have done in every proxy war. China doesn’t want that. It considered the people of Taiwan to be their family. They want their family to live and thrive. And they understand that the West will kill every last one of them.
The fact that you see nothing wrong with the continuous centuries of European imperialism creating violent strife everywhere they operate, threatening to escalate to nuclear conflagration, and operating 600 military bases around the world in order to impose their will on literally all of the world’s people should be a moment of realization to self reflect on your trash values.
The PRC and the KMT are not separate countries. You are inventing a new way of thinking that you do not apply literally anywhere else in the world. Cuba was never part of the United States. It’s not republican nor democrat nor confederate. The working families party didn’t exist before it existed, does that mean it can’t win elections now? You are confusing political movements for sovereigns. China is the sovereign. The KMT was the party in charge for a very short period of time and they didn’t operate much on Taiwan island. The PRC demonstrated that it had overwhelming popular support and won the war and it took over control of China, which includes Taiwan. The KMT and the PRC are not separate countries and that you Western beligerrents keep framing it that way is completely disingenuous with no basis in reality, history, law, or precedent.
NO. We’ve already established this. They are NOT the same. Cuba was part of Spain. The USA was part of England.
Taiwan is part of China, has been for centuries. The CPC took over China from the KMT. The KMT was routed and fled to the island, that was part of China and established a separatist state. This state of affairs would have ended with the KMT being dismantled if it hadn’t been for European intervention to turn the KMT into a political proxy that allowed the Europeans to maintain military and economic hegemony over the region. There is NOTHING similar about Cuba and the USA except that they are an island and a mainland (except Cuba is 3x further away from the mainland than Taiwan is).
So who operates on Taiwan now? It’s not PRC.
It’s not a machine. You don’t operate islands. The question is who is sovereign over Taiwan, the answer is China. The next question is which political body currently governs Taiwan, the answer is the ROC. The final question is does the ROC have a claim to legitimacy and the answer is no.
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If they don’t wanna be a part of China they don’t have to be. Nothing you said addresses that point. You can’t just act like history didn’t happen.
The people that live there NOW see no value in being Chinese. That simple, everything else is playing a pointless game.
The dinosaurs inhabited that island longer than humans. The true owner is the lizard people.
People believe what they want. White people in Turtle Island call themselves Americans, and white people in Africa call themselves Afrikaners. But we are objectively still European :)
Racism has been proven to be low brow dog shit mentality. None for me thank you.
What?
Being racist = bad.
You doing a racism is not for me
I’m not doing a racism!
Racism against white people is literally impossible.
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History happened. They are now independent of mainland China stop trying to side step the argument with disingenuous deranged semantical theater
They own that island. They live there, they take care of it, they decide how it’s run. Forcing your will on others is clearly a bad thing. The fact autonomy upsets you should be a moment of realization to self reflect on your trash values
LOL. So insightful. History is constructed and exists in the present.
No, they aren’t. They are completely dependent on mainland China. Oh you meant politically? So was Hong Kong. You know why? Because the British colonized it. Does that give it legitimate claim to being separate? No. In Taiwan, the British and US didn’t colonize it, they propped up a puppet regime and made it a neo-colony, fully dependent on the West for military and political life, fully dependent on the West and now China for its economic life. Taiwan can, in no reasonable framing, be considered “independent” of anyone.
That’s not how private property works. I would expect a capitalist bootlicker to understand the basics of private property.
They literally ran a terror campaign for 40+ years! They committed mass murders of people who disagreed with them. And they operate the island as a proxy of Western imperialists!
This is why China isn’t going to invade and occupy. Unlike the West, China understands that this is an unsustainable path towards integration. What they will do is keep pushing the imperialist powers out of the region and continue to develop their economy, their political system, and their diplomacy. They will continue to disrupt Western spy networks, Western propaganda networks, and Western influence campaigns. And through soft power, they will create the conditions for Taiwan to reintegrate.
What you don’t understand is that failure to reintegrate means war with the West. The West wants to fight China but not directly. They will gladly create security problems for China via Taiwan and they will gladly indoctrinate Taiwan and create conditions for Taiwan to get involved in a hot war with China. The US will fight China to the last Taiwanese, just as they have done in every proxy war. China doesn’t want that. It considered the people of Taiwan to be their family. They want their family to live and thrive. And they understand that the West will kill every last one of them.
The fact that you see nothing wrong with the continuous centuries of European imperialism creating violent strife everywhere they operate, threatening to escalate to nuclear conflagration, and operating 600 military bases around the world in order to impose their will on literally all of the world’s people should be a moment of realization to self reflect on your trash values.
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The PRC and the KMT are not separate countries. You are inventing a new way of thinking that you do not apply literally anywhere else in the world. Cuba was never part of the United States. It’s not republican nor democrat nor confederate. The working families party didn’t exist before it existed, does that mean it can’t win elections now? You are confusing political movements for sovereigns. China is the sovereign. The KMT was the party in charge for a very short period of time and they didn’t operate much on Taiwan island. The PRC demonstrated that it had overwhelming popular support and won the war and it took over control of China, which includes Taiwan. The KMT and the PRC are not separate countries and that you Western beligerrents keep framing it that way is completely disingenuous with no basis in reality, history, law, or precedent.
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NO. We’ve already established this. They are NOT the same. Cuba was part of Spain. The USA was part of England.
Taiwan is part of China, has been for centuries. The CPC took over China from the KMT. The KMT was routed and fled to the island, that was part of China and established a separatist state. This state of affairs would have ended with the KMT being dismantled if it hadn’t been for European intervention to turn the KMT into a political proxy that allowed the Europeans to maintain military and economic hegemony over the region. There is NOTHING similar about Cuba and the USA except that they are an island and a mainland (except Cuba is 3x further away from the mainland than Taiwan is).
It’s not a machine. You don’t operate islands. The question is who is sovereign over Taiwan, the answer is China. The next question is which political body currently governs Taiwan, the answer is the ROC. The final question is does the ROC have a claim to legitimacy and the answer is no.