• @SlopppyEngineer
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    2211 months ago

    Leave standards to experts.

    That’s what everybody did at first. It gave us a different connector for each device. After a few decades, there are still competing standards. Either the experts are incompetent, or the business environment they’re in doesn’t incentivize single standards.

    • @[email protected]
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      511 months ago

      This is the issue, you can squeeze more money out of your consumers if you lock them into an ecosystem an license every single 3rd party device.

    • @[email protected]
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      -611 months ago

      Or, and go with me here, it’s a non-issue? Like it’s fine to have multiple standards for different uses?

      All they did was standardize the shape of the connector. Not the voltage, power output, etc. So you’ll still have multiple competing standards and it will be a bit more confusing as “not all USB chargers will be able to power your laptop.”

      • @kalleboo
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        411 months ago

        I dunno about the SA law but the EU law mandates USB-PD support.

        Of course they can’t mandate the wattage level since every device will have different wattage needs, but I can use my $35 100W USB-PD charger with any USB device I have at home just fine

        • @[email protected]
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          -411 months ago

          What is the law solving then? You still have many chargers with different support for power, voltage, etc. You just have one “shape” now. And I’ll still have multiple adapters since I’m not shelling out 240W prices to have a charger in my car for my phone.

          It’s just standardization for the sake of standardization.

      • @[email protected]
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        411 months ago

        When I’m travelling, I can bring one single charger to charge my laptop, my phone, my tablet, my wireless earbuds, my flashlight, my powerbank, my e-Reader and my bike pump.

        In your world I would have to bring eight different chargers. That’s a pretty big issue to me.

        • @[email protected]
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          -111 months ago

          So we’re just passing laws for convenience then?

          In your world there are multiple operating systems. It’s a pain for me so I think there should be only one.

      • @[email protected]
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        311 months ago

        Or, it’s totally not a non-issue? Like, I remember the time when you had to carry around a fucking proprietary charger for every single fucking device?

        Yeah, no shit, you can’t power your megaultragaminglaptop4000™ with a 5 V 500 mA charger. Whodathunk.

        • @[email protected]
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          -111 months ago

          Like, I remember the time when you had to carry around a fucking proprietary charger for every single fucking device?

          Oh yes - we refer to those days as “the dark days”. I’m still scarred for life for having to have multiple chargers.

          You can have “a preferred state” without “passing a law enforcing it.” The world is marching towards USB as it is. Passing a law for this was stupid and useless.

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            🥱 Oh look, Mr Gotcha is still on it.

            Honey, you were so close from realizing what utter bullshit you’re talking when you moved from „tHeY jUsT sTaNdArDiZeD a CoNnEcToR“ to „it’s a collection of standards!“.

            Don’t cry, you can still use as many chargers as you want, that’s okay. You’re okay.

            You said it yourself „leave standards to experts“. I suggest you do that and go outside and play with the other 3rd graders, mh?

            • @[email protected]
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              011 months ago

              Honey, you were so close from realizing what utter bullshit you’re talking when you moved from „tHeY jUsT sTaNdArDiZeD a CoNnEcToR“ to „it’s a collection of standards!“

              You realize USB has more than one protocol for power delivery right? In what way do you think those two statements are contradictory? And within those standards are a range of viable voltages and power outputs. Not every USB charger can deliver the power to a laptop. Most can’t.

              I don’t want multiple standards - I’m just saying it’s idiotic to pass a law requiring one connector.

              The purported purpose of this law is to “reduce e-waste” and I believe it will do no such thing. 240W USB adapters are expensive so people will continue to buy the low-cost cables and chargers for, e.g. charging their phone on their desk at work.

              • @[email protected]
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                111 months ago

                Look, there’s no need to repeat your incoherent drivel ad nauseam. Nobody cares what the fuck you think other people will do.

                The only valuable thing you’ve said in the last days was, again, „leave standards to experts“.

                Since you seem to be really slow on the uptake: you’re not one of them.

                Now please go outside and play with the other children, okay?

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 months ago

                  Is there anything funnier than the “nobody cares what you say but I’m going to spend a lot of time responding to you” reply?

                  And by “funny” I mean “pathetic”.