He said he wants to get rid of undocumented criminals
Now you’re moving the goalposts. And it’s NOT in the fucking video.
“Yes, we want to get rid of undocumented criminals in this country, that’s fine, let’s do that.”https://youtu.be/_rBm3PBFQnU?t=1426 Pay attention to his tone when he says the quote and keep watching after the quote.
There is a defined and well-trod path for deporting undocumented criminals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgNnbTrsgw). Being an undocumented immigrant in the US is a civil offense (which presents its own problems), not a criminal offense. Therefore, undocumented immigrants != undocumented criminals, even though undocumented criminals are still often processed through the civil system which undermines due process and the procedural safeguards of criminal proceedings.
The point that Sanders is making in the speech is that capital class is manipulating proles. The goal of the manipulation is to convince workers that immigrants are to blame for everything being so fuct. You’re zeroing in on something out of context, changing your statements, and completely neglecting the message of worker solidarity in that speech.
Regardless of how one feels about Sanders, strong borders, and punitive immigration enforcement, I think we can all get behind worker solidarity.
I don’t think anyone is saying that actual violent criminals who are in the country illegally should be allowed to stay. What the current regime is doing is saying that all those undocumented in the country are violent criminals which is obviously false. I haven’t seen the whole video but I would wager that is what Sanders was talking to.
So you don’t think that it would be fine to deport undocumented criminals?
Not undocumented workers, but undocumented criminals who have had a trial and convicted of a crime?
You think it would be unfair to deport the actual criminals?
I for one am not denying that he said deport the criminals, but you specifically claimed he said deport the workers and called them criminals when he specifically said deport the criminals. He made no claims that all undocumented workers were criminals.
It’s in the fucking video. He said he wants to get rid of undocumented criminals
Now you’re moving the goalposts. And it’s NOT in the fucking video.
“Yes, we want to get rid of undocumented criminals in this country, that’s fine, let’s do that.” https://youtu.be/_rBm3PBFQnU?t=1426 Pay attention to his tone when he says the quote and keep watching after the quote.
There is a defined and well-trod path for deporting undocumented criminals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgNnbTrsgw). Being an undocumented immigrant in the US is a civil offense (which presents its own problems), not a criminal offense. Therefore, undocumented immigrants != undocumented criminals, even though undocumented criminals are still often processed through the civil system which undermines due process and the procedural safeguards of criminal proceedings.
The point that Sanders is making in the speech is that capital class is manipulating proles. The goal of the manipulation is to convince workers that immigrants are to blame for everything being so fuct. You’re zeroing in on something out of context, changing your statements, and completely neglecting the message of worker solidarity in that speech.
Regardless of how one feels about Sanders, strong borders, and punitive immigration enforcement, I think we can all get behind worker solidarity.
I don’t think anyone is saying that actual violent criminals who are in the country illegally should be allowed to stay. What the current regime is doing is saying that all those undocumented in the country are violent criminals which is obviously false. I haven’t seen the whole video but I would wager that is what Sanders was talking to.
So you don’t think that it would be fine to deport undocumented criminals?
Not undocumented workers, but undocumented criminals who have had a trial and convicted of a crime?
You think it would be unfair to deport the actual criminals?
I for one am not denying that he said deport the criminals, but you specifically claimed he said deport the workers and called them criminals when he specifically said deport the criminals. He made no claims that all undocumented workers were criminals.