• voidsignal
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    9 hours ago

    On one hand I’m happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer.

    On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass

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      9 hours ago

      There’s still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that’s who and when it would be done. I’m not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I’ve got no reason to think that it’s not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

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          Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done.

          It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and we just don’t know about it because they’re not at the center of an international child sex exploitation crime ring.

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            6 hours ago

            Trump’s Twitter password was maga or something like that. After it got hacked I’m pretty sure it was maga2020 when it got hacked again

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              5 hours ago

              So I guess it’s maga2028 now?

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          6 hours ago

          That someone was exposed as a teenage “hacker”.

          I used quotes because it was more social engineering and lying than any sort of hack.

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            6 hours ago

            “hacker”… According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein’s handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved.

            I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn’t a suicide. I’m not sure what incentive he’d have to both lie about identifying his brother’s body and making so much noise about it being a murder…

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              5 hours ago

              I’ve been hearing that the “changed handle” thing isn’t valid, because when an account handle is changed you can still see the original on the user’s profile (and that wasn’t the case for the littlestjeff account). With all the misinformation flying around, I have no idea about the accuracy of this though.

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                1 hour ago

                Yeah, it seems implausible to me that such a gaping security hole would be in a hugely popular game that long, but I guess that’s also not impossible. Stupider things have happened.

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              6 hours ago

              I’m not sure what incentive he’d have to both lie about identifying his brother’s body and making so much noise about it being a murder…

              Remember that he was deeply involved in Epstein’s businesses, including holding the position of president over the J Epstein & Co investment firm.

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          6 hours ago

          I read somewhere that it was somebody else who changed their username to match his, and not the same account. Can’t find a source for it either way though.

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        8 hours ago

        If I had that much money I know I would have a “Hail Mary” boobytrap that released a bunch of incriminating evidence in case of my death.

        That might be Ghislaine’s job.

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          Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with ‘his grandmother’ rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?

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            Man comedy has gone so downhill.

            Like there were the greats… Abbott, Costello…Kaufman, Belushi.

            Millennials got fucked again. Foxworthy. Dunham. Cable Guy. Eddie Murphy’s later years. What have you done for me lately, Eddie?

            We could’ve kept Chris Farley, but he had to die. And without him, David Spade is worthless.

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        8 hours ago

        Not impossible, but I don’t see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.

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          A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I’d still kill him regardless but I also wouldn’t make any deal with slime like that to begin with.

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            7 hours ago

            I’m guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.

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              That would make sense if he wasn’t arrested, convicted, interrogated and with a mountain of evidence in the hands of the FBI. A dead drop isn’t going to keep you alive if the person who wants you silenced thinks you’re already spilling the beans.

              But even if that’s the case he’s alive until he clears the dead drop because he’d still be a loose end.

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              That too. Really it would depend how stupid he and his handlers were/are, I can’t really make any statements on stupid or smart rich assholes are though since I come from a place of assuming everyone of these profligates are universally just above braindead.

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          5 hours ago

          Who knows.

          Like someone else said there might have been a dead man’s switch ready to release all the kompromat.

          Death is obviously very final, if he’s stashed somewhere then you could wheel him out to testify although I can’t really think of a circumstance where that would be advantageous.

          I tend to think murder is the far simpler objective and therefore the most likely.

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      Does it still count as suicide if they hand you the rope and tell you this is the easy way out and if you don’t play ball they’ll make sure it’s painful?

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        The only threat they needed to make was a return to general population.

        I seem to remember him being attacked by another inmate. Instead of being put into protective custody he was put on suicide watch, which is its own kind of hell.

        So, he changed his will to fuck over his victims, and is suddenly pulled off suicide watch.

        The only two people needed to then make sure Epstein was dead would be the warden probably Epstein’s own lawyer. Maybe the psychiatrist who signed off on the removal from suicide watch… But the suicide watch wasn’t initially justified, so pulling Epstein off it wouldn’t seem strange.

        Hell, if you were a clever, high placed official in the DOJ, an example being Bill Barr, you could simply tell the warden to “put some pressure on the pedo” and then use the lawyer to deliver the real message of “kill yourself before we put you into the general population”.

        Then you get a dead loose end and no record of illegal activity inside the prison. Also you only have to buy off a single person who likely already has questionable morals.

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      Sorry dude but he’s not dead. You have to look at the evidence beyond a headline but it isn’t some strechy conspiracy at this point. None of the photos of him dead look dead, morticians have weighed in on that pretty decisively. He didn’t just have his xbox account go active after he had a fedex account and some other thing like streaming or an e-mail im not finding confirmations on. Then there’s the 2 guards who found him, read those interviews, again, doesn’t seem dead. Then there’s the notes in his cell with what seems like an escape plan that is for some reason partially redacted. And it goes on…

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        Fun spin to put on “Epstein didn’t kill himself” but also, you know, come on.

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        Who benefits from him being alive? His assets were seized so it’s not like he could plan his own escape. The evidence was also already seized so it’s not like he could keep evidence hidden. Most of his contact would be gone on the account him supposed to be dead. What would make him so important to keep him alive? It’s not to make sure he can’t testify because dead men also don’t testify. So what would be the reason for keeping him alive and out of prison?

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          Simple. It’s what Ghislaine wants and she holds all the blackmail in the world(almost literally). Jeffrey is hers, she gets what she wants.

          Yeah it’s pain in the ass and overcomplicated but if this is an ongoing CIA Mossad operation it’s not really weird. The FBI has 14+TB of video footage logged in evidence. Imagine how much power Maxwell really weilds if she’s backed by Mossad

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          What’s keeping Ghislaine in a vacation prison where she gets her own dog, and the warden her bitch? What’s keeping all the American billionaires in the Epstein Files free from accountability? Stop trying to make sense of a world that has none.

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          Bank account, another online account I’m looking for the link to. I edited in links to the rest. Probably more in a few days which is what i mean by goes on…

          Also 4chan and a dynamic IP stopping the FBI dead lol