The raid was in connection with an investigation into alleged threats against President Joe Biden and others, according to two officials briefed on the case.
Nonsense. They absolutely do not act with impunity. That’s just silly. If they acted with impunity, they wouldn’t have obtained an arrest warrant first. Unless this is a new meaning of ‘impunity’ I’ve never heard before.
If someone posted that they are going to get their gun and meet the president, you think cops should NOT investigate whether they’re serious or not? That would be malpractice even for cops.
You’ve got a good point there, but Trump supporters are among the short list of groups of people I trust less than Police (or they are the same group) so at worst it’s a push.
They were serving an arrest warrant in addition to a search warrant, which means they had probable cause for an arrest and a judge signed off on this. It wasn’t just shit posting, he was making plans which for reasons we don’t yet know the feds and a judge considered credible and serious. We also don’t know why he was shot, but “summary execution” seems unlikely, especially given how the feds always walk on eggshells around right wing extremists so as not to ruby ridge their way to another oaklahoma city (see e.g. basically every standoff with the Bundys). My money is the guy was a nutcase who started shooting when the feds showed up leading to a fairly predictable result for him.
It’s ALWAYS been like that. Back in the early 90s a kid emailed the white house a threat as a joke…the FBI showed up at the school the next day.
It’s always been a crime to threaten the president. Half of Congress gets away with it because they’re rich…but us poor bastards that are still subject to laws should expect repercussions for illegal acts.
Threatening the government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the president of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.
Half of Congress just dog whistles to their fanbase to do shit like we see in this exact post. With a couple of notable exceptions, they are generally not dumb enough to make direct threats themselves. (I think Cawthorn directly told a group of pro-Turnip supporters to make threats and such.)
The FBI and regular police have very different standards. I definitely think this should be fully investigated like any use is force, but I have more faith that the FBI handled this appropriately than of it had been a local PD department.
Idk about you but i would have to make a few really bad life decisions before i got into a shootout with the feds. Like several very bad decisions before it even got to that point lol
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Do you really think the Feds want another Ruby Ridge on their hands? They’re not going to make that mistake twice.
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Hungry trolls, best ignored ime.
Why does that matter? Do you think that means they want another PR mess like that on their hands?
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Nonsense. They absolutely do not act with impunity. That’s just silly. If they acted with impunity, they wouldn’t have obtained an arrest warrant first. Unless this is a new meaning of ‘impunity’ I’ve never heard before.
If someone posted that they are going to get their gun and meet the president, you think cops should NOT investigate whether they’re serious or not? That would be malpractice even for cops.
It worse than that. According to Vice, they found his Facebook.
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Creditable treats. Nom!
You’ve got a good point there, but Trump supporters are among the short list of groups of people I trust less than Police (or they are the same group) so at worst it’s a push.
Your friend is a moron I guess.
They were serving an arrest warrant in addition to a search warrant, which means they had probable cause for an arrest and a judge signed off on this. It wasn’t just shit posting, he was making plans which for reasons we don’t yet know the feds and a judge considered credible and serious. We also don’t know why he was shot, but “summary execution” seems unlikely, especially given how the feds always walk on eggshells around right wing extremists so as not to ruby ridge their way to another oaklahoma city (see e.g. basically every standoff with the Bundys). My money is the guy was a nutcase who started shooting when the feds showed up leading to a fairly predictable result for him.
we kill terrorists, son
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Blocked either way.
Irony.
Fake news huh? Is that like alternative facts?
It’s ALWAYS been like that. Back in the early 90s a kid emailed the white house a threat as a joke…the FBI showed up at the school the next day.
It’s always been a crime to threaten the president. Half of Congress gets away with it because they’re rich…but us poor bastards that are still subject to laws should expect repercussions for illegal acts.
Half of Congress just dog whistles to their fanbase to do shit like we see in this exact post. With a couple of notable exceptions, they are generally not dumb enough to make direct threats themselves. (I think Cawthorn directly told a group of pro-Turnip supporters to make threats and such.)
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Do you understand that we have to execute arrest warrants to prosecute someone? Like I don’t see what disconnect you have in this situation.
Why is it such a a leap that a man who has made threats against someone would act violently towards law enforcement?
Why do you think that the FBI is more likely to have killed him in cold blood executing lawful, legal warrants than the above?
It wasn’t just Biden, I take it you haven’t seen his Facebook yet?
FAFO
You trust a right wing nut over the FBI?
Sounds like they’re a Trump supporter.
The FBI and regular police have very different standards. I definitely think this should be fully investigated like any use is force, but I have more faith that the FBI handled this appropriately than of it had been a local PD department.
Maybe he should’ve complied with police orders. Or whatever conservatives say when a black man is killed by police for their pinky twitching.
I mean the dude got into a shootout with the FBI
Idk about you but i would have to make a few really bad life decisions before i got into a shootout with the feds. Like several very bad decisions before it even got to that point lol
Yeah you don’t get in a gunfight with the downtown gang. Those men and women aren’t just serious about investigating, also marksmanship.
Better keep an eye on this one, too.