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    Because it’s singular, when the main beneficiaries are Israel’s leadership blackmailing US leaders into this, Oil Companies like Exxon and Chevron, and all the rest, and of course the Arms Contractors.

    …and Russia.

    That’s a hilariously long list to just stop short and not include another main beneficiary… you’re right that it’s not singular and there is not only one beneficiary, so why not include them all?

    The media has been covering for Israel on the Epstein blackmail and trying to make is seem like it’s all Russia

    Yeah, if this was true, you’d be able to provide one single link to a mainstream news source with an article that matches your made up narrative of “Russia blackmailing Trump into the Iran War with Epstein files”. Good luck searching! I’ll wait.

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      Russia is included in the oil companies, geopolitical maneuvering sure, russia and china and everyone else benefits, but they already were with this clown in charge, that’s why russia has been helping this far right seize control in part.

      As to the latter part, do you not follow the news? This winter, the media, nytimes, and others, were running articles trying to pin epstein as a russian honeypot, now that it’s common knowledge it was a honeypot.

      I don’t even know what your point is here. You are covering for Israel I take it?

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        Does China really benefit? They import a fuckton of oil/gas through the strait of Hormuz, so they’ll face an energy crisis just like the rest of us. Is that worth a drawdown on US munitions and damage to the US’s reputation? The former is temporary and the latter is frankly common under Trump. China’s main concern is, or at least ought to be, getting their economy ahead of their population crisis (which is key to maintaining their claim to legitimacy).

        They’ll benefit from the boom in renewables that an oil crisis usually causes (generalising from a dataset of one), maybe that’s the assumption?

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        As to the latter part, do you not follow the news?

        I do.

        This winter, the media, nytimes, and others, were running articles trying to pin epstein as a russian honeypot

        Okay, so if this was true, it would be trivial to produce a link to one of them. This narrative definitely went around on social media and memes, maybe some op eds, but that’s not the same as it it being pushed by mainstream news sources.

        I don’t even know what your point is here.

        I simply disagreed with the OP.

        You are covering for Israel I take it?

        No, and I agree that Epstein was very likely connected to Mossad. However, the media is not pushing a narrative that Epstein is connected to Russia, or relating it to the Iran war.

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          If you followed the news as you claimed, you would be well aware of the media fobbing off blame, not successfully, on Russia, for Epstein. This just happened, this winter. It’s common knowledge and I don’t care if you concede that point or not. You agree that epstein was connected to mossad, that is enough.

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            Didn’t find anything to back up your claim? Yeah, neither did I when I searched. Lol.

            You agree that epstein was connected to mossad, that is enough.

            Except you’ve still made an easily verifiable claim that you cannot back up with evidence, besides “it’s common knowledge”. You’re either intentionally spreading misinformatiom or are just misinformed yourself.

            I don’t care if you concede that point or not.

            Yeah, of course you don’t. Because you don’t care that your claim is false.