I sympathize with the point of the article, but if someone’s seriously citing Flash, which had widespread success for a run of about 15 years before being overtaken by later developments (driven in part by a billionaire with an axe to grind), as a short-lived “dead end” that was best avoided, then how long do they think is a sensible amount of time to wait to see if something’s worth spending time and effort? Nothing remains on top forever.
Well, I’m still waiting for that new language everyone is talking about to mature enough for being really useful, it’s not even 50 years old yet, that C++ lang
Flash had its use. I think a better analogy for me is web frameworks.
I remember in the mid 2000s there seems to be a new one every week. “LOL, you aren’t using Ruby On Rails? Peasant!” “LOL, you aren’t using Django? Peasant!”
Still seems to be the case with Electron, React, Node, blah blah blah.
I exaggerate a bit. C99 lets you declare variables anywhere inside the block, not just the top.
Which still got me into an argument with a coworker who wanted me to declare every variable at the top of the block “in case” we port the code to a compiler that doesn’t support it.
C99 was 20 years old at that point.
Newer versions of C have generics “support” but I haven’t seen it in the wild yet.
I feel like the web framework question has stabilized in recent years. React and node (not a web framework but in a similar boat) are stable and common, and angular and a few others are good alternatives.
TS is a superset of js though, you can still use normal js and probably won’t have to even change the file extension or anything like literally 0 change
This one hurt. I had a decade plus old piece of tech debt from when they fucking killed flash before I could move on to new projects.
I sympathize with the point of the article, but if someone’s seriously citing Flash, which had widespread success for a run of about 15 years before being overtaken by later developments (driven in part by a billionaire with an axe to grind), as a short-lived “dead end” that was best avoided, then how long do they think is a sensible amount of time to wait to see if something’s worth spending time and effort? Nothing remains on top forever.
Well, I’m still waiting for that new language everyone is talking about to mature enough for being really useful, it’s not even 50 years old yet, that C++ lang
Flash had its use. I think a better analogy for me is web frameworks.
I remember in the mid 2000s there seems to be a new one every week. “LOL, you aren’t using Ruby On Rails? Peasant!” “LOL, you aren’t using Django? Peasant!”
Still seems to be the case with Electron, React, Node, blah blah blah.
Running to stand still.
… I’m working on learning Django to get a job… should I stop? What should I use instead?
My webserver I’ve had for a while supports basically that.
Django isn’t going anywhere. The point is not to jump on the latest fad, which Django isn’t.
I’m the wrong person to ask. My goto language is older than I am and hasn’t had a meaningful change since I was born.
cobol? fortran? c? assembly? so many options
Fortran has a 2018 release. Assembly is tied to the cpu, so I assume it changes every iteration.
I just consider it’s origin to be ancient…
That’s irrelevant is it’s updated frequently.
Not completely, there are some designs choices that are to stay in old languages but would not exist in younger ones
C.
I exaggerate a bit. C99 lets you declare variables anywhere inside the block, not just the top.
Which still got me into an argument with a coworker who wanted me to declare every variable at the top of the block “in case” we port the code to a compiler that doesn’t support it.
C99 was 20 years old at that point.
Newer versions of C have generics “support” but I haven’t seen it in the wild yet.
I wonder what the last programming language will be…
COBOL.
probably
As the other comment said, Django isn’t going anywhere. I’d not start a new project in it, but it’ll be with us for a long time.
For a more modern (and better) python stack, but which is also definitely here to stay, I’d look at FastAPI with sqlalchemy.
Well, I’m working on django-ninja , and that is vaugely related to fastapi, so I’ve got that going for me I guess. Thanks for the heads up
I feel like the web framework question has stabilized in recent years. React and node (not a web framework but in a similar boat) are stable and common, and angular and a few others are good alternatives.
I hear they’re changing the language these things run on from JavaScript to TypeScript.
No thanks to the hamster wheel.
I mean, Typescript just compiles down to JavaScript. I’m also generally anti a million frameworks, but JavaScript to TypeScript is easy
Isn’t it also like opt in? If you don’t annotate a type it just defaults to Any, which is just unchecked like standard JS
Yup
As far as I know, it is. Type safety is optional but very useful sometimes
TS is a superset of js though, you can still use normal js and probably won’t have to even change the file extension or anything like literally 0 change