I literally haven’t seen anyone even mention it anywhere on the internet as if it never existed, when it comes to Ad blockers I always see uBO recommended with absolutely no mention whatsoever of ABP why? What makes it better than ABP? What happened to it? or maybe I’m wrong and ABP is not as well known as I think it is.

I have been using ABP for many years until someday don’t remember when I switched to uBO because I read that it is “the best ad blocker”.

I maybe need a history lesson as everything on the matter seems so vague to me and the whole situation is super weird

  • gullible
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    11 year ago

    You have it backwards, Adblocking exploded after tracking became commonplace and invasive, and it has only gotten worse on that front. I get the vague impression you weren’t around for the days when malvertising was a chronic threat created exclusively by greedy companies without decent security controls. Bring back dumb ads and I’ll see them. I’m still going to block every form of JavaScript on your site that I can, but I’ll undoubtedly see your banner ads.

    • Doug [he/him]
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      11 year ago

      And I get the impression you weren’t around for the first ad blockers. I recall it very differently and unless you have something to back up your end of it we’re at a bit of an impasse.

      I’ve been around far longer than you think.

      • gullible
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        11 year ago

        There were no adblocking extensions for early internet explorer so consider its share 0.

        Adblocking increased at twice the rate of new internet users as a result of certain folks despising the idea of being tracked and/or hacked. If every adblock developer worth looking at weren’t also a security enthusiast, you might have a point.

        I’ve spent 20 minutes looking up statistics for a dude who’s very obviously trolling or roleplaying and I hate that. You’ve won, I slightly burned my chicken au jus.

        https://dailywireless.org/internet/usage-statistics/?ref=hackernoon.com

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/435252/adblock-users-worldwide/

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

        • Doug [he/him]
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          01 year ago

          There were no adblocking extensions for early internet explorer so consider its share 0.

          What you consider it to be is irrelevant. An extension wasn’t any more the only way to block ads then than it is now. Ad blocking has absolutely been happening longer than there have been extensions to do it.

          Adblocking increased at twice the rate of new internet users

          Which means it’s going to reach a critical mass at some point, no? What would you expect to happen then?

          very obviously trolling or roleplaying

          Damn am I sick of people falling on this regardless of what the disagreement is over or who it is with. Even if it were true, which it’s not, you have a better picture of the situation, at least if you’re willing to accept that someone legitimately disagrees with you.

          I’m sorry to hear about your food

          • gullible
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            11 year ago

            There were adblockers for Netscape but the esoteric process was uncommon for internet explorer. Look, if you want to understand why we’re all fine with the collapse of the internet into donation-based forums like this one, just check the history of the spread of tracking and malware through ad networks. This will get you started.

            https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/a-history-of-the-data-tracked-user/

            • Doug [he/him]
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              11 year ago

              Except it’s less likely to be donation based and more likely to be fee based.

              The fact that you’re aware of any kind of ad blocking for Netscape reinforces my position that blocking was a leader in the arms race

              • gullible
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                01 year ago

                And I think the overwhelming majority of us are fine with that. Your response is equal parts facepalmingly ridiculous and nostalgic. I appreciate it in a way you probably won’t understand for a long while.

                • Doug [he/him]
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                  01 year ago

                  I think you’re wrong on the overwhelming majority and that they’ll still be fine with it should it happen.

                  Good luck I guess