• DaddleDew
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      10 hours ago

      Oh my, you’re right. That explains a lot.

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        10 hours ago

        The unfortunate part is, I agree with many of their points, such as Israel is committing genocide, what the us is doing in Iran is stupid/horrible/etc, people should have housing/food/etc. But as soon as you say what russia is doing is also bad, suddenly im a fascist who is supporting American hegemony. Oh well

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          This is such a great illustration how effective propaganda in the west is. You accept that all my points are valid, but because the pedophile oligarchs told you the war in Ukraine is entirely Russia’s fault you accept that completely uncritically. Especially weird given that even western media has been openly covering rampant fascism in Ukraine for many years. Oh well

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            If you could only flip that around. You would see just how much you are affected by eastern propaganda, you are blindly accepting what putin is saying about Ukraine, and accepting invading another country and bombing schools and hospitals. The irony is there. Is Ukraine “the good guys?” No, but i respect their right for sovereignty, and fighting back against russian expansionism. In a similar vein, is Hamas “the good guys” no, but i understand they have been fighting against Israeli genocide. Is Iran “good” no, but i respect their sovereignty and recognize the fact that the us and Israel had no business doing what they are doing.

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              8 hours ago

              Be specific, what eastern propaganda do you claim I’m affected by. Please do quote something I said that’s blindly accepting what putin is saying about Ukraine, and accepting invading another country and bombing schools and hospitals. What I quote is what’s being openly reported in mainstream western media https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/

              It’s weird for you to claim that you accept people’s right to sovereignty when the legitimate government in Ukraine was overthrown in a violent western backed coup. Top people in the US, like Rubio, have openly stated now that Ukraine is their proxy. Nobody is even hiding it. It’s also strange that your concept of sovereignty and self determination doesn’t extend to people of Donbas who did not wish to be ruled by this regime. Evidently you want everything to be neatly black and white so it conveniently fits your conception of the world.

              Nowhere have I said that Russian invasion of Ukraine was a good thing. What I’ve actually said is that it was an obvious response to NATO encroachment on Russian borders.

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                8 hours ago

                Every time. Its the same with the .ml, oh well im not going to engage with you anymore, I’ve done it countless times before and its always been plugging ears and mud slinging. have a great life!