• ParadoxSeahorse
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    2 days ago

    There’s a lot of international folks here getting downvoted because

    AMERICAN CHIROPRACTORS ARE QUACKS.

    Can we please step out of our American bubble for a fucking second to realise there is whole world out there of real healthcare.

    In the vast majority of the world Chiropractors are exactly the same as Osteopaths and Physios, they have to go to the same schools, lectures, have the same training. They are purely musculoskeletal. Why they are insane in America is anyone’s guess. But this is a problem with America, not Chiropractors.

    That said, this is fucking hilarious and I have sent it to a friend to take the piss.

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      No. This is wrong. I would like you to update your post to not spread wrong medical information :

      Everybody can be a chiropractor or a osteopath. I could even open a private school to teach both without even learning them. Same as acupuncture. If I want to be a physiotherapist, I need a university degree.

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      Since Chiropractic medicine was invented in America by a spiritualist quack, I would say trying to use the same name for valid medical practices in another country is the mistake of whoever decided that was ok to do. It’s like saying yes, wizardry is bullshit in America, but in many other countries it’s a valid form of pharmacology. Just call it the valid term that has regulations.

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      They’re insane in the US because the weirdo cult leader who started US chiropracty based on his dreams about literal ghosts was fucking insane.

      It has nothing to do with medicine, and it should be illegal to impersonate medicine like that. It’s shameful.

      Everyone who has been swindled by it should file a class-action suit, since that seems to be the only recourse under the US system.

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      Chiropractics literally started as an alternative to germ theory. The quackery was baked in from the start. They may couch their quackery in medical jargon now in some places but I’ve yet to see stats where people who went to chiropractors did better than people that went to massages or physical therapy.

      Example from England last year:

      https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/fitness/exercise/gymgoer-29-died-after-chiropractor-cracked-her-neck/news-story/96b8084d70755d577a44091c976066e7

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        Cases like this should obviously be taken seriously, as it was here. But it doesn’t invalidate the whole field any more than it does for medicine, physiotherapy etc.

        In this case, the woman went against medical advice, and did not tell the chiropractor about her injury or give him her notes. This is why it was recommended to be standard practice to request them. This chiropractor was also clearly an idiot.

        These types of cases happen all the time with all medical professionals, it would be disingenuous to suggest otherwise. In fact, here, it also happened with the paramedics.

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          Yes it does. One is a scientific evidence based approach backed by studies and the other is a pseudoscience proven to have at best no positive outcomes at worst detrimental for your health.

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      Massive amount of misinformation, every country has a protected name and registration for real medical jobs. Chiropractic stuff is a US pseudoscience and a negative impact on patients the same as homeopathy.

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      AFAIK it’s the same in Germany too. Unregulated. I could just go and call myself a chiropractor, trying my best to fuck you up.

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      The “chiropractors” in other countries that aren’t quacks, are simply a mistranslation of some sort of real medical field. Anyone in an English speaking country called a chiropractor is at best an amateur masseuse scamming people and at worst a dangerous cultist.

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      Yup. And I should say you can find good ones in the U.S., you just never know.

      Mine was from New Zealand and worked with one of their Olympic teams. She never cracked my neck but gently massaged and manipulated it to release a whiplash injury after a car accident.

      For every one of her, there are 20 quacks who claim they can cure cancer with foot baths.

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        There are no good chiropractors anywhere, they’re charlatans.

        Edit: Downvote all you want but going to a chiropractor is dangerous, that is a fact, not an opinion. Downvoting me will not change the facts. Stop going. If you are in pain, go to a physical therapist, massage therapist, or a real medical doctor depending on the type and severity of pain. The chiropractor will only put you at risk of serious injury or death, they are incapable of fixing anything, what you feel is placebo.

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          There are some that at least won’t hurt you while they’re scamming you.

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            That’s only by chance, the “adjustments” they make are inherently dangerous and the “practice” is 100% made up bullshit that has no basis in reality whatsoever. These fuckers should be charged with fraud.