• webadict
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    1 day ago

    So, do you want to admit that Democrats would kill less people, or not? I get you’re trying to point out these issues as equivalencies, but, like that still would mean that you agree that Democrats would have killed less people because you didn’t point out USAID issues, the one that has killed hundreds of thousands. So, let’s pretend that these are the same (they’re not, Democrats pushed for Epstein files, Newsom and Adams never executive ordered anything like Trump, Democrats are the ones pushing any amount of changes on ICE, even we both agree they’re not enough), that STILL MEANS TRUMP IS KILLING MORE PEOPLE.

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      1 day ago

      Democrats would kill less people

      Would they? Who is counting?

      Did Obama kill fewer people than Bush? Before Libya, I would have agreed he was the lesser evil. Afterwards, much harder to say.

      Did Biden save any lives when he refused to prosecute anyone in the Trump administration after taking office?

      Either way, you’re not winning me over when you promise N-1 dead people.

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        We’re talking about Trump right now, and not Bush, even though our forever wars always start under Republicans.

        Trump disbanded USAID. That has killed hundreds of thousands around the globe. That, alone, should be the single most obvious difference that you talk about. Like, pretend that there wasn’t a push for a ceasefire in Gaza, something that Kamala talked about constantly, or that there was some reason that Kamala would go to war with Iran. I will strongman this argument to all heck…

        No Democrat would EVER DISBAND USAID. None of them. There’s no reason to. And that killed hundreds of thousands on its own. Right?

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            21 hours ago

            Moving the goal posts. Again. They would not have killed hundreds of thousands and you know it and refuse to admit it because you are unable to accept you are wrong.

            Do you care about political violence or not? Do you care about people or not? Because it looks like you don’t. It looks like you are okay with others dying if it somehow punishes the people you think it should punish, and it doesn’t even do that right. I am sad for you, a performative leftist, because you are so easy to see through.

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              When presented with evidence, you shut down. You’ve been conditioned to give this response. If you’re genuinely interested in the truth, I would suggest not to call providing sources “moving the goal post”. Because at the end of the day, this response is exactly how the oligarchs keep you in line.

              Every person has motives. Every rational person acts in their own self preservation. Capitalistic Oligarchs, red or blue, will maximize their control for capital. They do it because they must. The electorate votes for things they have been told are good, most will never understand the nuances of what I just said. Perhaps you are different?