• bassomitron
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    14 days ago

    But Putin attacking countries is fiiiiine. Ukraine and Western propaganda and all that.

    • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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      14 days ago

      firstly isn’t that whataboutism?

      either way I’m opposed to inter-capitalist wars and despots like Putin.

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        14 days ago

        In a discussion about the misrepresentation of political stances to further various agendas, it is not a whataboutism to point out a commonly held political hypocrisy.

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          I mean it is a misrepresentation of my political stance, plus the topic was warmongers running our government and they were like ‘what about russia’

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            14 days ago

            If your primary concern had been its misrepresentation of your values, why didn’t you lead with that? The topic of .ml and hexbear was brought up as examples of people pushing the narrative in OP - hence why including a hypocrisy about the topic common in those communities is relevant.

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              14 days ago

              A pretty common sentiment on hexbear is that Putin is someone Lenin would have shot. Opposing the war in ukraine as an inter-capitalist war is pretty common position as well. I don’t see the hypocrisy, just looks like someone attacking a made-up position

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                14 days ago

                You, a .ml user, very literally express the sentiment in the OP in your first comment - you equate (red) and (blue) as warmongers you fail to see the difference between.

                That the communities are far more pro-Russian than other spaces online is trivially easy to confirm - not perhaps to the flippant degree bassomitron presented, but it’s still true. And while you yourself may not be an example of that (although your primary stance appears to be that both Ukraine and Russia are equally wrong due to it being an inter-capitalist war and not a war of aggression by one capitalist state, which hmm. You also appear to have at one point earnestly believed the lies that there are “nazi gangs” running around Ukraine, which is not your fault but I hope you have reevaluated that belief since then), that’s not relevant to the above generalization.

                (edit: clarity)

                • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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                  14 days ago

                  You also appear to have at one point earnestly believed the lies that there are “nazi gangs” running around Ukraine

                  There are and were plenty of nazi gangs running around. they’ve just been largely integrated into the military formations, idk what to tell you. Believe it or not both sides can have their issues. This isn’t a Marvel movie.

                  your primary stance appears to be that both Ukraine and Russia are equally wrong due to it being an inter-capitalist war and not a war of aggression by one capitalist state, which hmm.

                  Both sides are capitalist states fighting over spheres of influence and neither represents working class interests.