• queermunist she/her
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    -161 year ago

    If the alternative was that they would rape, kill, and kidnap my people for the next 20 years without end?

    I’m not willing to fight this war to the last Ukrainian.

    • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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      121 year ago

      Say they do negotiate peace, what do they do next time Russia wants to invade?

      Give more up?

      • queermunist she/her
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        -101 year ago

        It is possible to include certain guarantees within a treaty to make it painful for either side to break it, or to make breaking it extremely difficult. That’s what Ukraine would have to demand from Russia - some kind of leverage or collateral to guarantee the peace holds.

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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          21 year ago

          Ukraine would have to trust Russia would comply and they haven’t historically.

          • queermunist she/her
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            -81 year ago

            No, trust is for fools. They need some kind of mutually assured destruction so that neither side can ever betray the peace treaty.

    • @M0oP0o
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      61 year ago

      You are Ukrainian then? Because I think they are the only ones who get to make that call.

      • 133arc585
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        -21 year ago

        The conflict is not occurring in a vacuum. They can pretend that they are the only ones who can make that decision, but without the West sending ridiculous amounts of money in arms and support, they wouldn’t be in a position to make any decision. As long as they’re entirely dependent on others, they can’t monopolize the decision making here.

        • @M0oP0o
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          71 year ago

          See you have an issue in that argument. Without support (as that is what I assume would be the threat here) Ukraine has very clearly stated that it would fight on. You seem to forget that the west just lost a war in Afghanistan, who had no real foreign support.

          All that cutting support off would do would drag this conflict out and make it mostly partisan action.