This seems like a relevant climate change related ev discussion / call to arms to fight he FUD:

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  • @Chickenstalker
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    Tesla, specifically the Muskrat is turning people off EV. One day, cars will be ironically treated like race horses, something the rich and hobbyists will own. EVs are not the answer to gridlock and bad town planning.

    • VitaMan
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      I agree Musk is turning people off of his companies and Electric Vehicles are definitely not the answer to gridlock, but Tesla arguably accelerated the worldwide EV movement. They also currently produce and deliver more EVs than almost any other single automaker in the world. Finally, EV’s are getting much cheaper and soon won’t just be for rich or hobbyists.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      While true, cars are still here to stay and are necessary for society to function. Not everyone is going to live in a dense urban city, and travel wont always be serviceable by mass transit. Of course, the vast majority of the worlds population isnt fully served by mass transit.

      EVs are necessary to decarbonize the current fleet of gas powered cars, which number around a billion. We need electric cars, trucks, vans, heavy trucks, and buses.

    • @Desistance
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      EVs were never going to solve infrastructure problems. Its a direct response to carbon emissions.

      • @HollandJim
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        Whenever I read someone using “just” or “simply” in a comment, it’s a red flag.

        No single thing will ever “solve the problem”; if anything, that’s a core lie that has to die quickly.

        Climate change is the result of generations of small, bad decisions that now amounts to our future. If you want to save anything, Climate Change has to die by a thousand cuts (…or likely more). EVs are only one of the cuts to be made.

      • Dolphinfucker420
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        I wish, it doesn’t actually change total carbon output in a very significant manner when you factor in the lithium mining/general material cost

        • Dr. Dabbles
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          Just wait till you learn about iron and bauxite mining to make everything you consume in your daily life.

        • @Desistance
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          It is a significant tradeoff. The carbon cost for manufacturing pales in comparison to millions of cars and trucks belching CO2 every second plus a lot of waste heat from combustion. And once the lithium is out of the ground it can be completely recycled.

          Also not all lithium is hardmined, a large portion is separated from brine. The largest lithium mine in Chile is pumped from brine wells and set to evaporate on the desert sand. Newer technologies pump and separate the brine from lithium and puts the brine back in the ground in a loop.

          Miners themselves are experimenting with battery electric equipment instead of the diesel equipment they normally use. Each piece of gasoline and diesel tech that is removed shaves off harmful emissions from the net total. Matter of fact, scientists expect CO2 levels to plateau this year because of the increase in EV usage.