Once upon a time I was into RC helicopters. This combined with working offshore as a bachelor and living in a tiny apartment with a jurassic era (but reliable) car meant that I had a pretty decent income and not a whole lot on which to spend it. So once in a while I visited my local RC store just to browse and chat with the people there and if I stumbled across something interesting I might buy it.
I was not that much into the building part of the helicopters, but I saw it as a means to an end. Something I had to do to be able to fly it. The flying part was the end.
One day I was visiting the store, this clerk I knew showed me this kit he had. Brand new, pre-assembled, perfect craftmanship had gone into putting the kit together. Governor controlling the engine, ability to negate the pitch, extra strong servo for the cyclic controls. She was a beauty, and if it wasn’t for the fact that I was, at that point,saving up my money for something unrelated, I would’ve bought it.
“You guys pre-assemble kits now?” I asked out of curiosity. “Oh no, we don’t have the time for that” the clerk replied. “But this one customer” he began “he buys new kits, builds them, and sells them back to us at a 10% loss”
My brain short circuited. Why?? The flying part was the reward. Why would you not fly it? Well, in retrospect I understand it. The guy liked building complex machines. He had no interest in flying the kits. He loved the building process and the craftmanship that went into it, and once he had assembled it as perfectly as could ever be done, he was finished with the kit, and on the lookout for something new. He had the time to do what he loved, so why not. Rumor has it that he could spend an entire day with a tachometer and an IR thermometer just to get the fuel mixture perfect, whereas I used to do that in 10 minutes and call it “good enough”.
I never met the guy. But he sounds like an interesting character. If he ran Linux he’d be running arch. Not from the bragging rights, not for its usability, not for (insert common reason here). But simply because he loved the craftmanship that went into setting it up.
I hate Arch’s installation process but love AUR, and having always up-to-date packages. The new archinstall script that comes with it is actually really straight forward. Also, I install a complete, bloated gnome desktop environment, set up everything once and the resulting OS is really user friendly.
The chaotic AUR singlehandedly makes Arch great (on weaker machines).
I use EndeavorOS (99% Arch) and I haven’t looked back. Up to date software, knowing what’s in my system, minimal bloat, but I would recommend Fedora or openSUSE to beginners and intermediates. I can’t recommend Ubuntu or Manjaro. Using either one of those is like signing your sanity away.
This is such a weird take for me, and it’s popular enough of a take that it makes it weirder.
Arch is, by default, a barebones distro. The whole point is you start from nothing with very few defaults and learn how to get everything up and running yourself.
Complaining that the way arch works sucks cos you don’t want to do that is bizarre.
Imagine complaining that Linux From Scratch sucks cos you have to do it from scratch.
Endeavor OS exists, it’s what Endeavor OS should be. You can just use it, no one will complain. The Arch folk might be less inclined to help with it, but that’s why there are Endeavor OS folks to talk to.
There’s an installer ISO called Calam Arch Installer that uses the calamares installer (I think this is what all the Arch based GUI installer distros use - Garuda, Manjaro, etc). This one installs vanilla Arch though.
If you want to run straight Arch but don’t want to deal with Arch’s painful install process, this one is for you. I’ve used it on all of my Arch systems and it has been reliable.
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Once upon a time I was into RC helicopters. This combined with working offshore as a bachelor and living in a tiny apartment with a jurassic era (but reliable) car meant that I had a pretty decent income and not a whole lot on which to spend it. So once in a while I visited my local RC store just to browse and chat with the people there and if I stumbled across something interesting I might buy it.
I was not that much into the building part of the helicopters, but I saw it as a means to an end. Something I had to do to be able to fly it. The flying part was the end.
One day I was visiting the store, this clerk I knew showed me this kit he had. Brand new, pre-assembled, perfect craftmanship had gone into putting the kit together. Governor controlling the engine, ability to negate the pitch, extra strong servo for the cyclic controls. She was a beauty, and if it wasn’t for the fact that I was, at that point,saving up my money for something unrelated, I would’ve bought it.
“You guys pre-assemble kits now?” I asked out of curiosity. “Oh no, we don’t have the time for that” the clerk replied. “But this one customer” he began “he buys new kits, builds them, and sells them back to us at a 10% loss”
My brain short circuited. Why?? The flying part was the reward. Why would you not fly it? Well, in retrospect I understand it. The guy liked building complex machines. He had no interest in flying the kits. He loved the building process and the craftmanship that went into it, and once he had assembled it as perfectly as could ever be done, he was finished with the kit, and on the lookout for something new. He had the time to do what he loved, so why not. Rumor has it that he could spend an entire day with a tachometer and an IR thermometer just to get the fuel mixture perfect, whereas I used to do that in 10 minutes and call it “good enough”.
I never met the guy. But he sounds like an interesting character. If he ran Linux he’d be running arch. Not from the bragging rights, not for its usability, not for (insert common reason here). But simply because he loved the craftmanship that went into setting it up.
I hate Arch’s installation process but love AUR, and having always up-to-date packages. The new archinstall script that comes with it is actually really straight forward. Also, I install a complete, bloated gnome desktop environment, set up everything once and the resulting OS is really user friendly.
Calam Arch exists.
The chaotic AUR singlehandedly makes Arch great (on weaker machines).
I use EndeavorOS (99% Arch) and I haven’t looked back. Up to date software, knowing what’s in my system, minimal bloat, but I would recommend Fedora or openSUSE to beginners and intermediates. I can’t recommend Ubuntu or Manjaro. Using either one of those is like signing your sanity away.
This is such a weird take for me, and it’s popular enough of a take that it makes it weirder.
Arch is, by default, a barebones distro. The whole point is you start from nothing with very few defaults and learn how to get everything up and running yourself.
Complaining that the way arch works sucks cos you don’t want to do that is bizarre.
Imagine complaining that Linux From Scratch sucks cos you have to do it from scratch.
Endeavor OS exists, it’s what Endeavor OS should be. You can just use it, no one will complain. The Arch folk might be less inclined to help with it, but that’s why there are Endeavor OS folks to talk to.
You realize EndeavorOS is 99% arch, right? You don’t hate arch, you hate the idea of manual setup.
Also, glad you use EndeavorOS! I use it too and it’s the only distro I’ve daily driven for years now.
There’s an installer ISO called Calam Arch Installer that uses the calamares installer (I think this is what all the Arch based GUI installer distros use - Garuda, Manjaro, etc). This one installs vanilla Arch though.
If you want to run straight Arch but don’t want to deal with Arch’s painful install process, this one is for you. I’ve used it on all of my Arch systems and it has been reliable.
endevour is the manjaro of arch-based distros
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manjaro is the ubuntu of arch-based distros