• kingofrasOP
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    The civil war is one of the most misunderstood aspects of the usa. It didn’t kick off, and it was never truly over.

    It’s a fundamental difference in ideology but somehow they wanted to continue as one nation rather than 2. It’s why there’s a 2 party system, where one party is called “the democrats” — in a democracy!

    The 2 party system is the muted continuation of the war, and they are having one last good go at pressing all the buttons in the control room.

    In a struggle between 2 ideological parties, the most fundamentalist and amoral ones tend to be more successful for the same reason the jihadists have so much control over the Middle East. One lives for the cause, while the other just wants to live life.

    Tldr; no amount of patching can ragdoll something like the usa. Only when you see a nation that ideologically divided would you name it The United States.

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      Can I have some of whatever you’re smoking?

      Two party systems are a consequence of something called Arrow’s Impossibility Theorem, specifically as applied to First Past the Post voting. Which is technically Duverger’s Law

      If you want a video instead, this one is a classic.

      The names of things rarely have any actual meaning behind them, especially not political names, which were originally chosen to make people think they were patriotic for supporting said party. Or are chosen by the opposition.

      But yes, the tensions that caused the war did exist before the shots were fired, that’s how civil wars work. And yes, reconstruction was halted and reversed by Johnson.

      But the TLDR, being a defeatist is worse than useless, work towards a better tomorrow today. Also, civil wars, the kind with neighbors shooting neighbors and all, are fucking nightmares. Don’t try to start it all early, it will come all too soon on its own, the fascists will make sure of it.

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        No need for the pasagg, we’re on the same side, just smoking different brands of hopium.

        I do declare, I’m not defeatist. The disassembly of the zionist yank empire will be the single greatest victory for humankind anyone has seen in generations. I believe that makes me an optimist, as indeed it is about as hard to accomplish as treating stage IV cancers.

        For those actually stoned: the USA and Israel (their powerstructures, not all the inhabitants) are compared to being a stage IV cancer to the world in that clever metaphor).

        The 2 party system may have some educated sophisticated explanation of how it came to be, I am taking about why it sustained itself over there, while our slightly more functioning democracies quickly saw the creation of different parties across a much wider political spectrum.

        If you smoked my brand, you would see that the most divided nation on earth is called the United States, in a very similar way the Peoples Republic of China is not by, of or for said Peoples.

        Also, the fascists this time are very incompetent, so I will help start it, for it looks like that’s the only way to save the remaining part of the humans who never wanted anything to do with the rotten Mango problem.