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Hoboken proves once again that Vision Zero works. But only if a city actually commits to it. The New Jersey city has gone 9 years without a...

Vision Zero failed in Los Angeles because the city failed to adequately fund it. And the first time there was significant pushback, city officials ran scared, cancelling fully funded and shovel ready projects in multiple council districts, including dangerous and deadly streets like North Figueroa and Temple Street.

Now there’s a campaign urging Mayor Bass and the City Council to declare a state of emergency regarding traffic violence — although that may fall to her successor, whoever that may be, after June’s election.

You’ll find my name on the petition calling for it.

  • ChicoSuaveEnglish
    89·
    1 day ago

    As of the 2020 United States census, the Hoboken’s population was 60,419.

    With an estimated 3.88 million residents within the city limits as of 2024, Los Angeles is the second-most populous city in the United States.

    Yeah, cause they are totally the same amount of traffic and scope. Do you even know how to use statistics to lie because this was pretty bad. First day at the job?

    • VictorEnglish
      17·
      1 day ago

      If we only go by ratio then, LA has about 1 death per 10,000–15,000 residents per year. That should still mean Hoboken gets a handful or so deaths per year.

      A typical American city of Hoboken’s population averages about six to eight traffic fatalities per year, according to the Centers for Disease Control. [Cited from here.]

      Seems about right, ratio wise, both for Hoboken and LA.

      Yet Hoboken has zero deaths in 9 years since implementing this? Hardly a statistical anomaly, but couldn’t be anything than pure causality.

      Feel free to correct me if I’m thinking about this in a way that isn’t logical.

    • livligkinkajou@slrpnk.netEnglish
      8·
      10 hours ago

      This comment actually got me curious, so I found these numbers for cities with population around ~1.1 to ~1.4mi

      Can you guess which cities are actively investing in their vision zero programs and reforms?

      Lemmy doesnt like tables, so I’m sorry in advance:

      Numbers normalized to 100,000 population

      Deaths per 100k City Country Source
      0 Helsinki FIN 1
      0.36 Oslo NOR 2
      3.70 Amsterdam NLD 3
      4.20 Porto PRT 4
      4.38 Adelaide AUS 5
      4.59 Chihuahua MEX 6
      8.64 Florianopolis BRA 7
      9.39 Mendoza ARG 8
      14.15 Valparaiso CHL 9
      16.01 Jacksonville USA 10

      I was going to try go get 5 cities per continent, but I ran out of time. I think we already can get a good picture.

      Population taken from 2025 numbers https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities which says it sources from https://esa.un.org/unpd/wup/ (currently down for maintenance). It was not ideal to use 2025 numbers, but differences would be minimal based on annual growth

      Latest source data available was used, which is around 2022-2025. There are PDF links, open with caution