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    3 days ago

    Kinda weird to take personal offence from one person as an excuse to not participate in making things better.

    Like, if a conservative’s idea of a progressive came up to me and started saying I was a predator and demanding that white people be eradicated I’d just say they’re being fuckin’ weird and continue supporting progressive ideas. On the other hand, there are also the people who say “the left made me feel bad and I can’t take any criticism so I’m going to vote for Trump”.

    Like, how thin does your skin have to be?

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      Well, you gotta pile that on top that I got falsely accused of rape and the pieces click a bit easier. But the predator thing was me firmly accepting that feminism has completely alienated me. The left and gender politics I personally dont really care much about but I do desire to leave the world a better place than how I found it.

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        Again, you were wronged by someone who even the vast majority of the left would be pissed at and so you don’t like “woke” now. Do you also hate democracy because the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is bad and has it in their name?

        C’mon, dude. I’m sorry that happened to you but there’s zero logic in that stance.

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          This kind of behavior is both encouraged and downplayed. That’s exactly the problem and it has alienated lots of people.

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            Encouraged by who? I’m a straight white guy surrounded by plenty of woke people(dozens upon dozens) from all backgrounds and orientations, and even know a few who are pretty zealous who I’m not super close with because of that, and I’ve never seen behaviour like that except for one person who tried to weaponize it and who was called out by the community for it. I have never felt put down for being who I am, and in fact I am often surprised by how welcomed I am by all my friends, from regular gays to militant trans women and even an indigenous friend who leans a bit towards natural healing stuff(not my bag, but whatever).

            Many of the people “alienated” by it have turned out to actually just be unwilling to ever make adjustments and who aren’t as good as they claim to be. A very famous example being Elon Musk, who claimed that “woke” is why he now supports one of the cruelest institutions around. I remember when I was that fork in the road and I realized that no one was actually against me, and even if they were it wouldn’t be an excuse to go against supporting “woke” stuff.

            I’m not saying bad things didn’t happen to you, just that your narrow, anecdotal experience is not reflective of the vast majority of people.