Oh the difference is that religious bigots exist. And in huge, huge numbers.
“LGBT groomers” are not a thing. It’s a figurative Boogeyman you invented or someone convinced you exists in an attempt to create a dichotomy where one does not exist.
Or, to be more accurate, the Religious Right considers any talk of alternative lifestyles as “grooming” now, because they find the notion that kids might be born gay invalid, and every single kid that identifies differently was “made” that way because they talked with a “deviant”.
Meanwhile, Catholic dioceses all over the country are declaring bankruptcy, in spite of their tax exempt status, just to gain an advantage in the lawsuits over the priests who were, quite literally, grooming kids (no scare quotes required).
This Pope is a Jesuit from South America, though, and Jesuits tend to be a bit more liberal than other orders, if for no other reason that they are involved in education in a lot of poor countries. A fair amount of the most liberal Liberation Theology in South America and Latin America came from Jesuits.
But there are limits, even to what a Pope can do, to steer a 2000 year old institution. He may be saying that God loves everyone, but as long as the Church says that homosexuality is disordered, those people won’t feel welcome, even if the Pope wants to hug them.
Yes. Your. Most of humanity doesn’t accept it as a work of any godly people or gods themselves. How insulting to say to a Hindu or atheist that the Bible is for them. The same Bible that says they’re going to Hell for not believing in the characters therein.
Mein Kampf is readable by anyone who can read a translation or the original German. So what?
And I like how you totally ignored the part where I mentioned that the Bible says that all non-Christians go to Hell. How does that make it a book for everyone?
Oh the difference is that religious bigots exist. And in huge, huge numbers.
“LGBT groomers” are not a thing. It’s a figurative Boogeyman you invented or someone convinced you exists in an attempt to create a dichotomy where one does not exist.
Or, to be more accurate, the Religious Right considers any talk of alternative lifestyles as “grooming” now, because they find the notion that kids might be born gay invalid, and every single kid that identifies differently was “made” that way because they talked with a “deviant”.
Meanwhile, Catholic dioceses all over the country are declaring bankruptcy, in spite of their tax exempt status, just to gain an advantage in the lawsuits over the priests who were, quite literally, grooming kids (no scare quotes required).
Not that I’m trying to support Catholicism, but the Pope is out here saying “God loves all, yes even LGBT”
This Pope is a Jesuit from South America, though, and Jesuits tend to be a bit more liberal than other orders, if for no other reason that they are involved in education in a lot of poor countries. A fair amount of the most liberal Liberation Theology in South America and Latin America came from Jesuits.
But there are limits, even to what a Pope can do, to steer a 2000 year old institution. He may be saying that God loves everyone, but as long as the Church says that homosexuality is disordered, those people won’t feel welcome, even if the Pope wants to hug them.
Oh I think we agree. I think our conversation speaks to just how broken the institution of religion is, as applied to a group of size 8,000,000,000+.
Still, it’s better than having a USA-like pope rambling about how “sodomites” must be sent to conversion therapy
Yes, God loves everyone
Your Bible says otherwise.
“your”? Dude the Bible is for all humanity to read
Yes. Your. Most of humanity doesn’t accept it as a work of any godly people or gods themselves. How insulting to say to a Hindu or atheist that the Bible is for them. The same Bible that says they’re going to Hell for not believing in the characters therein.
It being accepted by them or not won’t make the Bible any less readable by them
Mein Kampf is readable by anyone who can read a translation or the original German. So what?
And I like how you totally ignored the part where I mentioned that the Bible says that all non-Christians go to Hell. How does that make it a book for everyone?
Your just intentionally misinterpreting what the person said to you in your response