But shes still right. Assuming that everyone is still in the queue area and not overflowing into the general concourses, it does not matter when she moves. The forward progress is an illusion if youre still queued after you move.
I think it’s just people want the illusion of the line moving so they can feel safe of reaching the end of the line, cause at the airport you want to the quickest way to your gate.
Yeah, it makes sense, but thats a emotional choice. You do that because it feels good, it seems productive. I think this is pointing out shuffling forward 2ft every 2 minutes is actually more of a waste of effort then going 40ft in 20 min. You need to exert some common background attention that we all just got used to doing with the shuffle way. The “leap forward” method is likely more mechanically efficent in a minute sense.
Emotional and rational get damn chummy when my missing my flight becomes a risk. I seek to eliminate unknowns to 0, such that I am SURE I’ll make my flight. Each checkpoint is an unknown of trouble, and until I’m papered and present at my gate I am seeking choices to arrive there.
She could cause folks to ito be in the queue lanes, and be left in the “open walking space” of the terminal, thus materially decreasing the usage of folks not trying to join that line.
The post isn’t about a solution. It’s about how we think and how we act. About which of those things we do are based on what makes sense, or what people think makes sense.
The forward progress is an illusion if youre still queued after you move.
Only if you count the amounts in the queue; if you count the positions, you’re still making progress because you have materially moved closer to the finish line: you’ll spend more time in the queue being “closer” than “farer” to the finish.
But why would you do that? She’s in front of you in the queue, so unless you have priority, human etiquette dictates that you should wait for your turn.
Skipping the line is just being mean to the people you skipped.
you ask once and if they refuse you bypass them.
if they stop you, apologize then wait for them to get distracted again and go.
it won’t take them long to keep up with the line, I guarantee it.
But shes still right. Assuming that everyone is still in the queue area and not overflowing into the general concourses, it does not matter when she moves. The forward progress is an illusion if youre still queued after you move.
Do you think she was keeping track of whether people were overflowing into the general concourses ?
Yes, in the thought experiment sense. If the premise is that she only moves rationally, a rational time to move is to keep the queue in the queue.
Realistically, outside of the thought experiment? Probally not so much. Maybe in a general background way.
I think it’s just people want the illusion of the line moving so they can feel safe of reaching the end of the line, cause at the airport you want to the quickest way to your gate.
Yeah, it makes sense, but thats a emotional choice. You do that because it feels good, it seems productive. I think this is pointing out shuffling forward 2ft every 2 minutes is actually more of a waste of effort then going 40ft in 20 min. You need to exert some common background attention that we all just got used to doing with the shuffle way. The “leap forward” method is likely more mechanically efficent in a minute sense.
It feels better, but it’s technically worse.
Emotional and rational get damn chummy when my missing my flight becomes a risk. I seek to eliminate unknowns to 0, such that I am SURE I’ll make my flight. Each checkpoint is an unknown of trouble, and until I’m papered and present at my gate I am seeking choices to arrive there.
She could cause folks to ito be in the queue lanes, and be left in the “open walking space” of the terminal, thus materially decreasing the usage of folks not trying to join that line.
but it does matter.
if she doesn’t move then I will go in front of her.
she can stand there all day if she wants.
The post isn’t about a solution. It’s about how we think and how we act. About which of those things we do are based on what makes sense, or what people think makes sense.
i wasn’t offering a solution, I was pointing out a flaw in your rational.
your rational is how you think and act.
I have no idea what that last sentence means.
You could move in front of her if she were right behind the person in front of her too. All it proves is that you’re a dick
I’m a dick for getting in line? sure, imma be a dick for getting in line.
yes
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Only if you count the amounts in the queue; if you count the positions, you’re still making progress because you have materially moved closer to the finish line: you’ll spend more time in the queue being “closer” than “farer” to the finish.
But why would you do that? She’s in front of you in the queue, so unless you have priority, human etiquette dictates that you should wait for your turn.
Skipping the line is just being mean to the people you skipped.
I’d argue that by not moving up she’s opted out of the queue and is no longer participating
I said if they stopped me I’d apologize.
You also said you’d try again - it’s not a real apology
why is my apology not real?