Was just watching Jack Ryan Season 3 and seeing the display of force and their movements causes some interesting dissonance given what we know now.

  • @Astroturfed
    link
    20
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    This is such a popular misconception I really don’t understand. Russia was so entirely dependant on the US for their logistics in WW2 it’s shocking how little it’s talked about. They were supplied American food and trucks in mass. Without the help of American supplies Hitler would of beaten Russia. They only held out as long as they did due to poor Nazi strategy, luck and mountains of dead bodies. Then once the Western front was more of a threat the Russians were able to surge forward with their mass of bodies and utter disregard for casualties.

    The Russian army has always been a joke. Brutality and lack of regard for human life is their strength. Theyre like the big dumb fat kid who bullies people in school. You get in a real fight with em and it quickly becomes obvious they haven’t ever done cardio (logistics, supplies) and there’s very little muscle mass (technology) hiding behind the fat layer (overblown specs and lies about capabilities).

      • @Astroturfed
        link
        51 year ago

        Several docs over the years I’ve seen and could probably never find again mentioned it. But here’s some numbers that paint a pretty good picture of how much assistance the USSR required. Between 41-45:

        400,000 jeeps & trucks 14,000 airplanes 8,000 tractors 13,000 tanks 1.5 million blankets 15 million pairs of army boots 107,000 tons of cotton 2.7 million tons of petrol products 4.5 million tons of food

        https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/

        Russia would of never been able to defeat the Nazis without basically being subsidized by the US. They were so bad at industrialization in this time period they would pay Americans to build factories for them because they couldn’t figure it out. Not to mentions their poorly planned info structure also had a lot of important factories too vulnerable/far west to where they were destroyed early on.

        USSR/Russia has always been a shit show economically. Economics is more my point interest, wartime economies are fascinating. I get that nukes are scary but I don’t understand how we made the USSR such a Boogeyman for the cold war. They were like a ponzi scheme of an economy. The US was well aware of how disfunctional they were in WW2 and how much help they needed. The second it ended we somehow forgot.

      • SokathHisEyesOpen
        link
        fedilink
        21 year ago

        It’s not reading material, but WWII In Color is an amazing documentary that covers the entire war, all fronts, all nations, and most major battles. It also covers the Holocaust and concentration camps, which is a horrific nightmare to see with your own eyes.