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Why are so many people still on Lemmy world. We’re supposed to be decentralized. One of the benefits to decentralization is that you can choose to avoid blocks like this. Stop centralizing!
Sync. I come from Reddit and that’s what my favorite client defaults to. It’s not optimal, because of the reason you say. I am totally OK with new apps presenting users with an easy “one-click” choice of instance to make onboarding easy, but having one accepted default has this side effect. If I were to maintain a Lemmy app, I’d probably select the “default” instance for a new user by selecting one at random in an array of popular instances, and then offer the user to subscribe to the official community of my app (wherever instance it’s on) to keep up. Maybe I can hit up the dev with some feedback on this on the official community.
And now, just like it ended up with Mastodon, I’ll have to maintain multiple accounts for Lemmy. Such a good user experience, it will totally catch on…
Seriously. Accept this piece of criticism from someone new to the Fediverse. Being harsher on piracy than a fucking corporation and forcing users to migrate accounts left and right / have multiple accounts to be able to easily access content out of your Mastodon instance’s niche and having to get around your instance defederating and blocking content you wanted to see is just abysmal UX. Are we supposed to have our content scattered around how many accounts? And for those who don’t like mobile apps, at this point I can only use Sync (Lemmy) and Tusky (Mastodon) through my phone to browse the Fediverse for lack of a good option to maintain multiple accounts on desktop. Firefox containers are just overkill for this, but I welcome suggestions.
End rant, and sorry if it’s a long-winded disorganized ramble. Is lemmy.ml good to get around this block?
That’s great. I think defederation should be a last resort option, as it weakens the ability of users tow switch instances, if they have to fear, to no longer be able to acces their former communities, resulting in the walled gardens which hold all those instagram users hostage unable to make the switch. and @chic_luke I can recommende tootle for desktop use of mastodon. It supports multiple accounts
Interesting. I wonder if it can run on my Raspberry Pi 3b+, or if the single GB of RAM doesn’t cut it, it will be up in my list of things to do together with immich, grocy, paperless-ng and NextCloud when I manage to build my real homelab. I’ve read enough horror stories about smaller instances disappearing so this seems like a good way forward?
Even then, I can’t say this is intuitive. I’m an advanced Linux user with sysadmin skills. I can pull this off in a few hours, but I doubt it’s the same for average Joe…
Seriously, at least on Jerboa you can literally just swap between accounts. You can subscribe to certain communities on each account or just filter by All. People complain too much.
Indeed, might it be a good idea for the very long term, keeping an account active for a decade plus I mean, ensuring you have access to everything and all communities etc, to run your own instance that’s literally just for you, not publicly available?
It would cost pennies, after all. I was thinking about it.
Server is “free” in that it can run on the computer you already have, with the Internet connection you already have. Domain registration is fairly cheap, I last paid $65 for 5 years. I haven’t shopped around in a while so there could be cheaper options. SSL cert can be had for free though you will have to renew it every 3 months, but that can often be automated…
(Setting up a private small group and sharing the burden of cost sounds even better. In that case there would be 5-15 people with limited/closed sign up)
Probably because there is not an easy toggle to migrate a user account to a new home instance. I know there are tools for it. But it won’t matter if there is not a button on a sign up page that says “migrate from another instance” that does it for you programmaticly.
In my case, I was on another instance that suddenly got flooded by people I profoundly disagreed with with their own meme-ridden culture that made it pretty unbearable. Lemmy.world seems more welcoming to the general public and less politically inclined as far as admins go. But dunno, maybe I’m wrong and I’ll hop again soon.
Join us at lemm.ee, sounds like what you want! It’s a general instance, no real politics. Just regular world news and stuff. I don’t really engage in much or the political stuff.
That’s what people don’t seem to understand. If you want a place that’s welcoming to the general public + the admins aren’t heavily political beyond obvious nonstarters, it can’t have piracy. If you want the place to have piracy, it’s probably going to be political and a bit more of a seedy place. You really can’t get everything.
I just have multiple accounts for multiple use cases. It’s really dumb to have your piracy activity on the same account you do everything else on anyways.
Fair point, but it seems absurd to me that a supposedly community-based instance gets harsher on privacy than a corporation that’s about to IPO. That seems off to me. Then again: lack of a big legal team. Understandable. Sad, inconvenient, but understandable. I’m not mad, I’m just sad. Mostly because this legal war on piracy is not only on piracy, but on software freedom (DRM, WEI, etc) and privacy (for a lot of media, there is no privacy-respecting way to legally acquire it)
Another thing that seems off is that this announcement has been made on the Discord server. Now, I don’t want to come across as that guy. I admit I use Discord regularly, because that’s what my friends are on and all efforts to migrate them to something more privacy-respective have been futile, mostly due to the lack of fleshed-out and comparable alternatives for now. But… why should a Fediverse instance have an official server on Discord? I feel like it kinda goes against the whole philosophy of this entire thing. Then again I’m new, so I might be in the wrong here. But wouldn’t a Matrix server or something be a better fit for this sort of thing?
Then don’t use lemmy.world it’s that simple. Communities can have whatever outside connections they want. Lemmy.world is the big normie/liberal/redditor instance. If that’s not what you want you can always join another instance closer to your tastes/beliefs/management style.
Why are so many people still on Lemmy world. We’re supposed to be decentralized. One of the benefits to decentralization is that you can choose to avoid blocks like this. Stop centralizing!
Sync. I come from Reddit and that’s what my favorite client defaults to. It’s not optimal, because of the reason you say. I am totally OK with new apps presenting users with an easy “one-click” choice of instance to make onboarding easy, but having one accepted default has this side effect. If I were to maintain a Lemmy app, I’d probably select the “default” instance for a new user by selecting one at random in an array of popular instances, and then offer the user to subscribe to the official community of my app (wherever instance it’s on) to keep up. Maybe I can hit up the dev with some feedback on this on the official community.
And now, just like it ended up with Mastodon, I’ll have to maintain multiple accounts for Lemmy. Such a good user experience, it will totally catch on…
Seriously. Accept this piece of criticism from someone new to the Fediverse. Being harsher on piracy than a fucking corporation and forcing users to migrate accounts left and right / have multiple accounts to be able to easily access content out of your Mastodon instance’s niche and having to get around your instance defederating and blocking content you wanted to see is just abysmal UX. Are we supposed to have our content scattered around how many accounts? And for those who don’t like mobile apps, at this point I can only use Sync (Lemmy) and Tusky (Mastodon) through my phone to browse the Fediverse for lack of a good option to maintain multiple accounts on desktop. Firefox containers are just overkill for this, but I welcome suggestions.
End rant, and sorry if it’s a long-winded disorganized ramble. Is lemmy.ml good to get around this block?
I’ve been enjoying Lemmy.zip. We’ve only defederates from a few instances and it’s all by vote. It seems to be a good place to be so far.
That’s great. I think defederation should be a last resort option, as it weakens the ability of users tow switch instances, if they have to fear, to no longer be able to acces their former communities, resulting in the walled gardens which hold all those instagram users hostage unable to make the switch. and @chic_luke I can recommende tootle for desktop use of mastodon. It supports multiple accounts
That’s why it’s a good idea to check an instance policy and maintenance before registration. (Or better yet running your own instance if possible)
Interesting. I wonder if it can run on my Raspberry Pi 3b+, or if the single GB of RAM doesn’t cut it, it will be up in my list of things to do together with immich, grocy, paperless-ng and NextCloud when I manage to build my real homelab. I’ve read enough horror stories about smaller instances disappearing so this seems like a good way forward?
Even then, I can’t say this is intuitive. I’m an advanced Linux user with sysadmin skills. I can pull this off in a few hours, but I doubt it’s the same for average Joe…
For me personally having multiple accounts is no big thing.
Seriously, at least on Jerboa you can literally just swap between accounts. You can subscribe to certain communities on each account or just filter by All. People complain too much.
Sadly its a major case of “But all my stuff is here”
LASIM can help you with that tho
It cannot.
Yeah account migration/export-import needs to come really soon
For one, my chosen server disappeared without any sign in a puff of logic, so I’m back here
My first two home instances disappeared
Indeed, might it be a good idea for the very long term, keeping an account active for a decade plus I mean, ensuring you have access to everything and all communities etc, to run your own instance that’s literally just for you, not publicly available?
It would cost pennies, after all. I was thinking about it.
Could you explain how it’s pennies, rather than over $100 a year for the domain and the server?
Server is “free” in that it can run on the computer you already have, with the Internet connection you already have. Domain registration is fairly cheap, I last paid $65 for 5 years. I haven’t shopped around in a while so there could be cheaper options. SSL cert can be had for free though you will have to renew it every 3 months, but that can often be automated…
(Setting up a private small group and sharing the burden of cost sounds even better. In that case there would be 5-15 people with limited/closed sign up)
Probably because there is not an easy toggle to migrate a user account to a new home instance. I know there are tools for it. But it won’t matter if there is not a button on a sign up page that says “migrate from another instance” that does it for you programmaticly.
Yeah we really need a migrate ability soon like Mastodon.
In my case, I was on another instance that suddenly got flooded by people I profoundly disagreed with with their own meme-ridden culture that made it pretty unbearable. Lemmy.world seems more welcoming to the general public and less politically inclined as far as admins go. But dunno, maybe I’m wrong and I’ll hop again soon.
Join us at lemm.ee, sounds like what you want! It’s a general instance, no real politics. Just regular world news and stuff. I don’t really engage in much or the political stuff.
Sweet, thanks! I’ll check it out
That’s what people don’t seem to understand. If you want a place that’s welcoming to the general public + the admins aren’t heavily political beyond obvious nonstarters, it can’t have piracy. If you want the place to have piracy, it’s probably going to be political and a bit more of a seedy place. You really can’t get everything.
I get it, I wasn’t taking about piracy, I was only answering the part of why people will concentrate on one instance instead of spreading out
I just have multiple accounts for multiple use cases. It’s really dumb to have your piracy activity on the same account you do everything else on anyways.
Fair point, but it seems absurd to me that a supposedly community-based instance gets harsher on privacy than a corporation that’s about to IPO. That seems off to me. Then again: lack of a big legal team. Understandable. Sad, inconvenient, but understandable. I’m not mad, I’m just sad. Mostly because this legal war on piracy is not only on piracy, but on software freedom (DRM, WEI, etc) and privacy (for a lot of media, there is no privacy-respecting way to legally acquire it)
Another thing that seems off is that this announcement has been made on the Discord server. Now, I don’t want to come across as that guy. I admit I use Discord regularly, because that’s what my friends are on and all efforts to migrate them to something more privacy-respective have been futile, mostly due to the lack of fleshed-out and comparable alternatives for now. But… why should a Fediverse instance have an official server on Discord? I feel like it kinda goes against the whole philosophy of this entire thing. Then again I’m new, so I might be in the wrong here. But wouldn’t a Matrix server or something be a better fit for this sort of thing?
Then don’t use lemmy.world it’s that simple. Communities can have whatever outside connections they want. Lemmy.world is the big normie/liberal/redditor instance. If that’s not what you want you can always join another instance closer to your tastes/beliefs/management style.