When right-wingers clean their own house then, and only then, may I reconsider my opinions. If you are a friend to a rasicist (etc), support them, invite then to parties, vote with them then I see no difference.
I’m not exactly a right winger myself, so I don’t really know. My point is that conservatism is not the same as evangelical Christian fundamentalism, and that all groups have people with honest, if possibly mistaken, intentions and plain bad actors.
How does one escort these people out of the “conservative” label exactly? I’m sure many feminists would like to do the same to RadFems and TERFs. And the MensLib crowd would like to distance themselves from MRAs and RedPillers (think Andrew Tate and you’re not far off with that last one).
The problem is, they keep getting grouped together anyway, especially by opponents, as it makes the whole so much easier to attack, and gets so many more clicks, which is the new lifeblood of journalism, apparently.
Conservative outlets often do the same with us, by the way. They lump people that simply want equality with the crazies that want to destroy Christianity and put Caucasians in a subjugatory position in society. Yes these people exist, even if they are currently inconsequential.
For every philosophy, belief system, or school of thought, there are people who can be reasoned with, even if they are incorrect, and there are hardliners who take things too far.
How does one escort these people out of the “conservative” label exactly?
See Al Franken, Anthony Weiner, Andrew Cuomo… It’s pretty easy to kick people out of your party if the will is there.
Conservative outlets often do the same with us, by the way. They lump people that simply want equality with the crazies that want to destroy Christianity and put Caucasians in a subjugatory position in society. Yes these people exist, even if they are currently inconsequential.
The problem is it isn’t just a party. You abolish the Republicans, the crazies will just come back as the Pants-On-Head party or somesuch. The crazies are organised, and they will organise outside of the Republican party if need be. Hell, Trump has already threatened to do so.
You do however make an excellent point about the crazies in congress, and I’m not saying we should ignore the damage they are doing. I’m just saying not everyone in the conservative sphere is a certified MAGAt, even if the latter does have big numbers.
If your still in the conservative sphere post maga. You own it. You are maga. There is no separation. Maga isn’t antifa where it’s a decentralized unaligned group of protestors, maga is in the halls of power, it’s passing laws, the people you vote into office are voting yes.
There is no distinction and won’t be one for half a century at least.
When right-wingers clean their own house then, and only then, may I reconsider my opinions. If you are a friend to a rasicist (etc), support them, invite then to parties, vote with them then I see no difference.
Many are not. The ones that vote based on economic policy aren’t exactly inviting the KKK/MTG types over for barbecues.
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I’m not exactly a right winger myself, so I don’t really know. My point is that conservatism is not the same as evangelical Christian fundamentalism, and that all groups have people with honest, if possibly mistaken, intentions and plain bad actors.
They may not have invited them but they’re not trying very hard to escort them out, either.
How does one escort these people out of the “conservative” label exactly? I’m sure many feminists would like to do the same to RadFems and TERFs. And the MensLib crowd would like to distance themselves from MRAs and RedPillers (think Andrew Tate and you’re not far off with that last one).
The problem is, they keep getting grouped together anyway, especially by opponents, as it makes the whole so much easier to attack, and gets so many more clicks, which is the new lifeblood of journalism, apparently.
Conservative outlets often do the same with us, by the way. They lump people that simply want equality with the crazies that want to destroy Christianity and put Caucasians in a subjugatory position in society. Yes these people exist, even if they are currently inconsequential.
For every philosophy, belief system, or school of thought, there are people who can be reasoned with, even if they are incorrect, and there are hardliners who take things too far.
See Al Franken, Anthony Weiner, Andrew Cuomo… It’s pretty easy to kick people out of your party if the will is there.
The right wing crazies are in Congress.
The problem is it isn’t just a party. You abolish the Republicans, the crazies will just come back as the Pants-On-Head party or somesuch. The crazies are organised, and they will organise outside of the Republican party if need be. Hell, Trump has already threatened to do so.
You do however make an excellent point about the crazies in congress, and I’m not saying we should ignore the damage they are doing. I’m just saying not everyone in the conservative sphere is a certified MAGAt, even if the latter does have big numbers.
If your still in the conservative sphere post maga. You own it. You are maga. There is no separation. Maga isn’t antifa where it’s a decentralized unaligned group of protestors, maga is in the halls of power, it’s passing laws, the people you vote into office are voting yes.
There is no distinction and won’t be one for half a century at least.
Ah yea, the economic policy ones too selfish and self centered to care what happens to LGBT people or little girls who were raped.
How redeeming of those people to align themselves so readily with the racists, misogynists, and xenophobes just to back up failed economic policy.