This video is by Eric Hovagim an up and coming Tankie “reporter” and in his video he even unironically leans into China is just doing a “combatting terrorism”, just like the US gov does, amongs other things to justify chinas various human rights abuses.

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  • Bloomcole
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    1 month ago

    “The report, by China scholar Adrian Zenz”
    LOL, who else but the fanatic deranged religious zealot and rabid Sinophobe.

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      1 month ago

      Is he a sinophobe or just against genocide? Honestly I don’t know, but it’s hardly the only claim of such things.

      • Bloomcole
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        1 month ago

        Maybe you should look up what this unhinged freak has said himself.
        Those are facts, not claims.
        Here’s a bio.
        Unfortunately it misses a lot.
        Like his anti-semitism.
        From his book:

        • CannonFodder
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          1 month ago

          Yes, he seems rather fucked up. Doesn’t mean he’s wrong tho. Idk. I suspect there’s some truth.

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            1 month ago

            I suspect there’s some truth.

            Sorry, I go on facts.

            Will some of those terrorists that got caught had a nice time in jail?
            Certainly not.
            Could China have made some mistakes in dealing with that difficult and dangerous situation?
            Probably.
            But they don’t have Guantanamo.
            And there certainly isn’t a genocide.
            There is simply no reason why they would want that.

            Truth is it’s they misrepresented the Chinese reaction for western propaganda.
            Also the terrorism attempts have stopped and Xinjiang is peaceful again a popular tourist spot.

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              Yes. But you don’t know what the CCP did to kill the dissent. They have a pretty nasty track record. And you don’t know they haven’t forced sterilization. Obviously it’s unfair for me to expect a negative proof. But China has killed and imprisoned many people for peaceful political protesting. So these claims fit their MO. And as you said, what they did ‘worked’. Think about that - what do you think it takes to make a group of people who want independence and freedom to give up their religion and go along with authoritarian rule?

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                You make a lot of wild claims again with zero proof.
                At best you offer ‘their MO’ which is based on the same western slander and baseless BS.

                what do you think it takes to make a group of people who want independence and freedom to give up their religion and go along with authoritarian rule?

                And there we have it, ‘authoritarian rule’.
                Looks like you pretended to want to have an open discussion and be neutral but you only faked it so you could spout your Sinophobia.

                And they weren’t ‘people who want independence and freedom’.
                They were a small group of Turkic, western and Turkish backed fanatic Islamic terrorists.
                A lot of them showing up later in Syria to help another western and Turkish backed POS headchopper islamic terrorist.
                You know, the one western governments now shake hands with.
                There and in many places the western tactic of proxy terrorists worked, it didn’t in China.
                And that’s all I’m going to say.
                I’m sure there are enough other Sinophobes here who will entertain your tired propaganda clichés on MoG, It’s the right circle jerk for that.
                I’m not one of them.

                • CannonFodder
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                  1 month ago

                  Are you in China rn? If you are, what happens if you protest anything the government does?
                  China has terrible human rights and you know it. Yes, there’s plenty of bad examples from other countries too, but China is quite clearly one of the worst of the larger countries. You probably even have some sort of rational for the Tianamen Sq massacre; why are you so defending China so hard?

                  • Bloomcole
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                    I’m Belgian. Despite being bombarded with anti-China propaganda I have the mental capacity to be sceptical and look up sources and facts.
                    Unlike you I don’t don’t regurgitate the known liars of the western media’s claims for truth.
                    And like any other country China has protests.
                    Amnesty and HRW are biased sources.
                    The USSA is much worse BTW.
                    No country has put more of its people in jail.
                    China has much better rights. You simply don’t know about that either.

                    And what a surprise you drag up the Tiananmen BS.
                    You’ve almost have a perfect China bad bingo card.
                    Please go ahead and explain what you imagine happened, always up for a laugh.

                    And why are you so defending the China bad BS so hard?