OK. Now explain how talking about this subject every. Single. Time. Is helpful or rational when this is incredibility old news at this point.
You can have your concerns, but it gets really close to a bad faith argument when you keep beating a dead horse.
People are tired and angry over hearing nothing but bad faith arguments when their material conditions continue to worsen.
Graham has patiently and clearly explained his story, which has been consistent, if you actually listen to what he actually said, instead of listening to what people tell you he said. He has done it every single time without a shred of indignation over having every bad deed he has ever done strewn over the planet.
That, to me, shows he has principles, and the discipline to enact them as an elected representative.
He’s not being elected to be king of America or Americas boyfriend, this kind of shitslinging is what got us to this point, where the only people who got a say were vat grown empty suits.
The fact is that the “vote blue no matter who” crowd is now reckoning with the fact that they are now the ones being told to shut up and get in line because we have bigger problems than a tattoo that a guy got while wasted 20 years ago. And they are not happy about not being the ones in the drivers seat.
It’s completely rational when people such as yourself attempt to deny it’s a Nazi tattoo.
Your rationale is irrelevant, the only excuse that’s valid is “Platner didn’t know”, but then surrounding himself with Blackwater fascists doesn’t help that case.
If all your buddies have Nazi tattoos, I’m sure that seems normalized.
The point is, no, it’s not normal to sport a Nazi tattoo and nobody should be normalizing or excusing it.
But that doesn’t answer my question of how this relates to the material conditions Mainers face and how it relates to any of Platners policies.
How will sexts early in his marriage change the fact that nowhere is affordable to live for any working class person?
How would a tattoo change his position on the affordability of groceries?
If the “squeaky clean” Establishment was such a better choice, why have their actions lead us to this point?
You can have the moral high ground. Pat yourself on the back for standing up to theoretical secret Nazis. I actually want to be able to take care of my family and halt my tax dollars from going to actual real nazis to kill children in Gaza.
Platners the democratic nominee, support him or support Collins.
It has nothing to do with any of that, it has everything to do with your attempt to deny it’s a Nazi symbol and then distract from your denying it’s a Nazi symbol.
Because it is a crudely drawn skull and crossbones gotten by a drunk Marine 20 years ago.
You’ve wormed out every question that asks the relevance to his policy positions. Which is kind of more important than what his tattoo is supposed to be.
It’s a perfect rendition of a totenkopf skull which is a Nazi symbol. Why you continue to deny this despite photographic evidence is beyond me.
Again, the correct response is “he didn’t know it was a Nazi symbol”, which is fair, and just calls into question his sensibility in personal body art in the same way that anyone would question getting a tattoo of words in another language that you can’t read.
Symbols do have meaning, but those meanings are assigned by people. I don’t think Graham got the tattoo because he thought it was a Nazi symbol, I think he got it because he was a drunk 21 year old who saw a skull and crossbones and though he and his buddies should have a group tattoo. His Jewish family members didn’t take offense to it, and they know him best, so I don’t see why I should be up in arms like you are.
My problem is with how much this has popped up in national news compared to his message, politics, and policies, all of which are far more important than his taste in tattoos.
The only reason to continue to bring it up is if you want to accuse him of being a Nazi. If so, you are going to need to present more evidence, because this passive insinuation is intellectual cowardice.
It’s not about “the controversy”, it’s shooting down the bullshit statements of “Hurrr durrr, it’s not a hate symbol! It’s just like a pirate flag!”
Fact is, I LIKE what Platner is saying, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that dumbass got a Nazi tattoo.
You can say the right things and still be a moron, they aren’t mutually exclusive. 😉
OK. Now explain how talking about this subject every. Single. Time. Is helpful or rational when this is incredibility old news at this point.
You can have your concerns, but it gets really close to a bad faith argument when you keep beating a dead horse. People are tired and angry over hearing nothing but bad faith arguments when their material conditions continue to worsen.
Graham has patiently and clearly explained his story, which has been consistent, if you actually listen to what he actually said, instead of listening to what people tell you he said. He has done it every single time without a shred of indignation over having every bad deed he has ever done strewn over the planet.
That, to me, shows he has principles, and the discipline to enact them as an elected representative.
He’s not being elected to be king of America or Americas boyfriend, this kind of shitslinging is what got us to this point, where the only people who got a say were vat grown empty suits.
The fact is that the “vote blue no matter who” crowd is now reckoning with the fact that they are now the ones being told to shut up and get in line because we have bigger problems than a tattoo that a guy got while wasted 20 years ago. And they are not happy about not being the ones in the drivers seat.
It’s completely rational when people such as yourself attempt to deny it’s a Nazi tattoo.
Your rationale is irrelevant, the only excuse that’s valid is “Platner didn’t know”, but then surrounding himself with Blackwater fascists doesn’t help that case.
If all your buddies have Nazi tattoos, I’m sure that seems normalized.
The point is, no, it’s not normal to sport a Nazi tattoo and nobody should be normalizing or excusing it.
But that doesn’t answer my question of how this relates to the material conditions Mainers face and how it relates to any of Platners policies.
How will sexts early in his marriage change the fact that nowhere is affordable to live for any working class person?
How would a tattoo change his position on the affordability of groceries?
If the “squeaky clean” Establishment was such a better choice, why have their actions lead us to this point?
You can have the moral high ground. Pat yourself on the back for standing up to theoretical secret Nazis. I actually want to be able to take care of my family and halt my tax dollars from going to actual real nazis to kill children in Gaza.
Platners the democratic nominee, support him or support Collins.
It has nothing to do with any of that, it has everything to do with your attempt to deny it’s a Nazi symbol and then distract from your denying it’s a Nazi symbol.
Because it is a crudely drawn skull and crossbones gotten by a drunk Marine 20 years ago.
You’ve wormed out every question that asks the relevance to his policy positions. Which is kind of more important than what his tattoo is supposed to be.
It’s a perfect rendition of a totenkopf skull which is a Nazi symbol. Why you continue to deny this despite photographic evidence is beyond me.
Again, the correct response is “he didn’t know it was a Nazi symbol”, which is fair, and just calls into question his sensibility in personal body art in the same way that anyone would question getting a tattoo of words in another language that you can’t read.
Symbols do have meaning, but those meanings are assigned by people. I don’t think Graham got the tattoo because he thought it was a Nazi symbol, I think he got it because he was a drunk 21 year old who saw a skull and crossbones and though he and his buddies should have a group tattoo. His Jewish family members didn’t take offense to it, and they know him best, so I don’t see why I should be up in arms like you are.
My problem is with how much this has popped up in national news compared to his message, politics, and policies, all of which are far more important than his taste in tattoos.
The only reason to continue to bring it up is if you want to accuse him of being a Nazi. If so, you are going to need to present more evidence, because this passive insinuation is intellectual cowardice.