• WhatsHerBucket
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    Unpopular opinion: He’s right. As much as I love to hate ai, it’s becoming a necessity.

    I fucking hate “AI”. I hate that companies are betting their companies and employee’s livelihood on something they know isn’t correct ALL of the time. And not just companies, but governments and militaries. Not to mention the damage infrastructure is doing to support it.

    However, it’s a tool and has it’s time and place. People just can’t put their head in the sand and pretend it’s not there. If you’re fighting it you’re going to be left behind.

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        All I know is that it’s changing every month but also I have to start using it every month for the past 3 years or I’ll be obsolete and someone that uses it will take my job. Lolz

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          Lol, my boss has tired using ai to speed things up and all we got in return was unhappy clients.

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          This is exactly my point.

          And the point of the article.

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            If you didn’t originally you should read my comment as if it is absolutely dripping with disdain and sarcasm.

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                  Now we’re resorting to name calling? Grow up.

                  I’m just trying to have an intelligent conversation. Clearly, this isn’t going to happen.

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                    Yes I’ll happily call you a buffoon when you make unfounded assertions and insinuate that I only don’t understand because you’re talking about the tech industry, when my comments in this very thread make it pretty fucking obvious I am in fact in the tech industry. Ya buffoon.

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        Coding.

        As a life long software developer, the speed at which I can build things is increasing significantly with AI. I’m not talking about vibe coding specifically, but even for maintaining existing projects, it’s a pretty powerful tool.

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          If that were true, there would’ve been a software explosion, since LLMs have “killed manual programming” for some years now according to the guys that earn money when people believe that.

          There hasn’t been any perceivable increase of software products over these years. Nor a decrease in their price.

          The only notable differences are:

          1. LLMs shoved into every software product.
          2. Microsoft software getting even worse since they claimed they were using so much LLM.
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          The people at work who use AI the most know the least. They add very little value. AI is rather anti-labor in that way.

          I’d also rather have some people who are slow and competent than fast and hallucinating

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            Aside from that, it’s very elaborate code and not exactly free of issues. But worry not, it’s tested with more genai.

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          Funny. You’d think we’d have more software if all you people that claim it’s rocket fuel weren’t full of shit, but all I see more is more shitty shovelware no one gives a fuck about, vibe coders overwhelming real open source devs, and historically good stuff like rsync getting fucked up

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          Lol you really opened multiple user profiles and mashed downvotes on random comments because you were so upset people called out your vibe coding story. Pretty sad

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        For the tools it is actually useful for; everyone has their thing.

        I didn’t say it doesn’t have it’s evils. But it’s like saying the internet was going to be a fad. It’s not going anywhere and people are taking advantage of it. If you’re not keeping up with it, you’re doing yourself a disservice.

        E: and yeah, I know it’s Lemmy and everyone is anti ai and even the slightest amount of non-hate is downvotes. I’m high and honestly don’t care. :)

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          How can you bitch about down votes when you have no answer to my question?

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            I’m not sure what gave you the impression I cared about made up internet points. In fact, I literally said I didn’t care.

            As for your question, different people have different needs. For me, I work in the tech industry. AI is changing everything in cybersecurity, programming, data analytics, medical research, the list goes on.

            I understand not everyone works in tech. And yes, it has it’s evil. But it’s not going anywhere.

            I’m not, nor have I said previously that it’s the end all, be all. I did say it had it’s uses.

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          GenAI is extremely destructive technology, so it deserves all the hate thrown at it, and the usefulness is still so-so at best.

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          The internet is a communications tool though. When you look at the history of communications development, from postal service to telegraph to telephone to internet, the internet fits right in there very neatly as the next step. AI is a totally new thing and doesn’t have any particularly comparable analogs in the past. Anyway my point is I don’t think it’s comparable to the internet

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      If you’re fighting it you’re going to be left behind.

      Nah. But feel free to consider me left behind if it gets you to shut up.

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        They keep saying we’re going to get left behind, but then they never actually leave.

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        Such strong words.  Also, it’s pretty unlikely I’ll shut up.

        Do you have anything you’d like to actually contribute to the discussion?  I’m here for intelligent conversation, you could at least explain why you feel that way?

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          I’d like to contribute this:

          You do a massive disservice to humankind by perpetuating the lie that “you’ll get left behind”.

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            How so? I’m just saying it’s here.

            Like it or not.

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              For things that are actually useful people don’t talk about them like they’re fucking covid lol

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      I fucking hate “AI”

      No you don’t lmao. Especially not after using the same “nuanced” glazer points.

      plonk

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        Humans can be held accountable though. Which means they would rather say “I believe this is because …” than “you are absolutely right! If you remove the voltage regulator from the power supply, it will provide more power!”. And if they don’t, they can be fired or put in prison, where they can stop doing harm.

        If your LLM repeatedly lies to you, there’s nothing you can do about it. Maybe try another LLM, but there’s not many of them and they all lie.

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          I think the perspective of moral responsibility (“lie”, “held accountable”) is not a useful one here. Punishment is one way of discouraging humans from making mistakes but it can’t prevent mistakes entirely. My field is software development and in software development there is the expectation that everyone, even the best human developer, makes mistakes relatively often, and there are frameworks for managing those mistakes. (Frameworks not focused primarily on blame or punishment.) AI can fit into those frameworks.

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        I expect Joe at the cash register might occasionally count his drawer wrong. However, he’s not going to randomly give me made up shit.