The fight over water is nothing new on Maui. But the impact on the county’s ability to battle fires is coming clear.

With wildfires ravaging West Maui on Aug. 8, a state water official delayed the release of water that landowners wanted to help protect their property from fires. The water standoff played out over much of the day and the water didn’t come until too late.

  • @reddig33
    link
    61 year ago

    Isn’t Hawaii surrounded by water? Is there really no system in place to use ocean water to put out wildfires?

    • @CaptainPedantic
      link
      121 year ago

      That would poison the soil. What’s worse, burned land, or land filled with dead stuff?

      • @qwertyqwertyqwerty
        link
        41 year ago

        I can’t say I have an answer to this, but least humans deceased would be the marker I would care most about.

        • @CaptainPedantic
          link
          81 year ago

          Of course, but for the cost and energy required to have a system to pump sea water in dedicated lines to where a fire was, you could probably build some water towers or a desalination plant or something. I’d be willing to bet no firefighter is going to dunk a hose in the ocean either, they’d probably end up with a destroyed pump.

          Aircraft dropping sea water is probably the only way it would be viable.

          • FuglyDuck
            link
            51 year ago

            And most aircraft react very poorly to salt. Catalina PBYs we’re used in the Berlin airlift to airdrop salt supplies precisely because they were already heavily protected from the corrosion.

            I’m not sure that normal water dropping planes have that.

            • @CaptainPedantic
              link
              21 year ago

              Salt water destroys just about everything doesn’t it?

              • FuglyDuck
                link
                1
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Not really? Naval brass/bronze has been used for ages because it’s reasonably resistant. Noble metals, too.
                copper in ship’s hull paint is used specifically to keep marine critters from growing on hulls.

                Then there’s the silica’s and other minerals, etc,

                Typical aluminum alloys (duralumin comes to mind) are very easily attacked by salt

    • @Changetheview
      link
      41 year ago

      Would be great if Hawaii and every coastal area could do this. Unfortunately, that’s a lot easier said than done. Not impossible and might be a necessary investment as fire risk increases though.

      The fresh water lines already run practically anywhere developed, ready to go at the turn of a spigot or hydrant. Can’t send salt water through that without risking serious damage.

      While truck/helicopter ocean water loads could be used (rinsing with fresh water after to prevent corrosion), the volume/accessibly just isn’t on the same level.