Maybe? I didn’t know Goose actually said that, and I’ll have to look it up, but even assuming she did say that, I’m still not too bothered by it. Often characters that start off as self-inserts aren’t one-to-one, and can develop into completely different characters over time. As a good example, the main writer of Ed, Edd, ‘n’ Eddy based all three main characters off different sides of himself.
You didn’t watch the movie where they reveal that Eddy’s brother was a abusive asshole who he was desperate to earn the approval of. His constant need to scam people and talk up his brother all stems from their terrible relationship. This culminates in the rest of the kids in the culdesac siding with Eddy when they see how his brother treats him despite literally spending the entire movie hunting him down for a scam that went too far.
They’re still some kids who at most try to have child fun. Jax is NOT trying to have childish fun, that was straight up harassment.
(Can you give me the episode name? Yea, I didn’t watch it, I didn’t find most episodes avaliable at YouTube)
Came back from the movie. I loved it. Especially the Uncle scene, it was well-built.
The difference between Eddy and Jax is that Eddy’s problems weren’t his fault. Eddy was born stuck with an abusive brother.
But Jax? Jax harrassed people and even his own friends (Ribbit and Kaufmo). He brought this to himself, distancing even who wanted to help him. Atleast Eddy valued Ed and Edd.
Fair enough, it’s a great send-off for a great show!
I brought up Ed Edd ‘n’ Eddy earlier because the main writer based all three of them off different sides of himself. Either he has a massively split personality, or it’s a good example of how even self-inserts can develop over time and not necessarily resemble the person they were originally based off. Heck, legally speaking it’s pretty frowned upon to base characters off real life people despite them creatively being the best source of inspiration! I’m no Jax stan!
Or the creator just got themselves based on… phases of their life? Children can be dumb (Ed), but maybe the creator was organized (Edd) and… Probably was always thinking of ways of making money/wanted to be cool and had a shitty brother (Eddy(?))
Goose is a trans woman herself. I see Jax not as a literal copy of herself, but rather as her idea of a “bad ending” if young-Goose (Gosling?) wasn’t able to come out and be herself
I think it’s also worth comparing Lee(roy) in real life versus Jax in the Circus. Jax is a snapshot of their mental state at possibly the lowest point in their life, immediately after their coming out apparently killed their mother. But while Lee was able to find friends and build out of that (on the way to a “good ending”), Jax never got that chance and ultimately succumbed to it
Hnmm, yeah, your point makes something. But Jax is still dislikeable, and I bet Lee(Roy) didn’t harrass a lesbian and caused deaths of 2 (humans? digital copies? we need a term for them.)
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Maybe? I didn’t know Goose actually said that, and I’ll have to look it up, but even assuming she did say that, I’m still not too bothered by it. Often characters that start off as self-inserts aren’t one-to-one, and can develop into completely different characters over time. As a good example, the main writer of Ed, Edd, ‘n’ Eddy based all three main characters off different sides of himself.
But the Eds were kids who just wanted to have fun. Jax is straight up terrible.
You didn’t watch the movie where they reveal that Eddy’s brother was a abusive asshole who he was desperate to earn the approval of. His constant need to scam people and talk up his brother all stems from their terrible relationship. This culminates in the rest of the kids in the culdesac siding with Eddy when they see how his brother treats him despite literally spending the entire movie hunting him down for a scam that went too far.
They’re still some kids who at most try to have child fun. Jax is NOT trying to have childish fun, that was straight up harassment. (Can you give me the episode name? Yea, I didn’t watch it, I didn’t find most episodes avaliable at YouTube)
ed, edd n eddy’s big picture show, the series finale!
Oooh, thanks!
Came back from the movie. I loved it. Especially the Uncle scene, it was well-built.
The difference between Eddy and Jax is that Eddy’s problems weren’t his fault. Eddy was born stuck with an abusive brother.
But Jax? Jax harrassed people and even his own friends (Ribbit and Kaufmo). He brought this to himself, distancing even who wanted to help him. Atleast Eddy valued Ed and Edd.
Fair enough, it’s a great send-off for a great show!
I brought up Ed Edd ‘n’ Eddy earlier because the main writer based all three of them off different sides of himself. Either he has a massively split personality, or it’s a good example of how even self-inserts can develop over time and not necessarily resemble the person they were originally based off. Heck, legally speaking it’s pretty frowned upon to base characters off real life people despite them creatively being the best source of inspiration! I’m no Jax stan!
Or the creator just got themselves based on… phases of their life? Children can be dumb (Ed), but maybe the creator was organized (Edd) and… Probably was always thinking of ways of making money/wanted to be cool and had a shitty brother (Eddy(?))
Yeah valid too
Goose is a trans woman herself. I see Jax not as a literal copy of herself, but rather as her idea of a “bad ending” if young-Goose (Gosling?) wasn’t able to come out and be herself
I think it’s also worth comparing Lee(roy) in real life versus Jax in the Circus. Jax is a snapshot of their mental state at possibly the lowest point in their life, immediately after their coming out apparently killed their mother. But while Lee was able to find friends and build out of that (on the way to a “good ending”), Jax never got that chance and ultimately succumbed to it
Hnmm, yeah, your point makes something. But Jax is still dislikeable, and I bet Lee(Roy) didn’t harrass a lesbian and caused deaths of 2 (humans? digital copies? we need a term for them.)