Dumb take. CICO(Calories in, calories out) is the guaranteed way to do it, but different people have different daily caloric usage and different caloric absorption rates, which is mostly dictated by genetics.
So, while genetics ARE a factor, they are no excuse for a defeatist attitude, you also don’t need to act like a cunt to get your point across.
Like I said earlier “So, while genetics ARE a factor, they are no excuse for a defeatist attitude”. I believe that responds to your question. I don’t think it would prohibit someone from losing weight, it would just make it easier for some, harder for others, to the point where people for whom losing weight comes easy might scoff and dismiss the additional effort someone on the other group would need to do in order to obtain comparable results.
And also like I said earlier “you also don’t need to act like a cunt to get your point across.”, you don’t need to go full confrontation mode with your questions, we can just discuss without the hostile, accusatory tone.
It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to determine that genetics can absolutely effect one’s weight. Outside of different body types theres also auto immune diseases that are genetically inherited. Obviously diet is a massive part of fat gain but it isn’t the only thing that effects it. Medication, exercise or the ability to exercise. Hell, even age does.
Ps Ben and Jerry’s really will make you fat, heed my warning
Not only are there direct genetic factors but also indirect ones (e.g. causing decreased thyroid activity, or depression which is often treated with drugs that make you gain weight), epigenetic factors, and so on.
Also you’re wrong about “fat logic”: both your gut bacteria and they fat itself emit hormones that make you eat more fattening stuff. It’s literally harder for a fat person to eat less.
Biology is complicated, so there’s a genetic factor in almost any behavior. Of course even more so for someone survival critical like hunger.
A person who has more muscle will burn more calories just existing than someone with less muscle. Muscle growth is impacted by hormones and other factors impacted by genetics.
It is a lot easier to diet properly when you burn 1500 calories a day resting than 800 calories a day resting. Taking the right supplements can obviously fix this but someone with 150lbs of muscle can just follow basic nutrition guidelines and it is “easy”.
We all get fat from genetics. Genes are directly responsible for converting blood sugar to fat.
Every aspect of weight, including influences on behavior, are caused by genes. Without genes, there’d be no learned behavior, it isn’t a chicken and egg situation.
Excess calories are converted to fat. Fasting is required to speed the reverse. Apparently, prolonged exposure to shivering cold will speed fat loss, too.
Genes create the environment where calorie intake is preferred over a calorie deficit. Genes create a body which seeks food as a primary reinforced behavior - “taste, experience, and feeding” is the title of a behavioral psychology text.
losing weight is hard, your brain, as expressed by your genes, doesn’t want to do it. There is no experience more personally triumphant in this overweight society, than getting an actual handle on your weight.
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Dumb take. CICO(Calories in, calories out) is the guaranteed way to do it, but different people have different daily caloric usage and different caloric absorption rates, which is mostly dictated by genetics.
So, while genetics ARE a factor, they are no excuse for a defeatist attitude, you also don’t need to act like a cunt to get your point across.
And Your source is? And do You really think the difference would be such, that it would prohibit someone from losing weight?
The strength of the genetic influence on weight disorders varies quite a bit from person to person. Research suggests that for some people, genes account for just 25% of the predisposition to be overweight, while for others the genetic influence is as high as 70% to 80%.
It’s like you didn’t even read the comment you’re replying to.
Like I said earlier “So, while genetics ARE a factor, they are no excuse for a defeatist attitude”. I believe that responds to your question. I don’t think it would prohibit someone from losing weight, it would just make it easier for some, harder for others, to the point where people for whom losing weight comes easy might scoff and dismiss the additional effort someone on the other group would need to do in order to obtain comparable results.
And also like I said earlier “you also don’t need to act like a cunt to get your point across.”, you don’t need to go full confrontation mode with your questions, we can just discuss without the hostile, accusatory tone.
It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to determine that genetics can absolutely effect one’s weight. Outside of different body types theres also auto immune diseases that are genetically inherited. Obviously diet is a massive part of fat gain but it isn’t the only thing that effects it. Medication, exercise or the ability to exercise. Hell, even age does.
Ps Ben and Jerry’s really will make you fat, heed my warning
Hi, PhD in biology here: you’re wrong!
Not only are there direct genetic factors but also indirect ones (e.g. causing decreased thyroid activity, or depression which is often treated with drugs that make you gain weight), epigenetic factors, and so on.
Also you’re wrong about “fat logic”: both your gut bacteria and they fat itself emit hormones that make you eat more fattening stuff. It’s literally harder for a fat person to eat less.
Biology is complicated, so there’s a genetic factor in almost any behavior. Of course even more so for someone survival critical like hunger.
Hope you learned something.
Hi, certified dietitian with a PhD in physics here. You literally can’t gain weight while burning more calories than You eat.
You literally wrote “eat more fattening stuff”. No shit, You get fat from fattening stuff.
A person who has more muscle will burn more calories just existing than someone with less muscle. Muscle growth is impacted by hormones and other factors impacted by genetics.
It is a lot easier to diet properly when you burn 1500 calories a day resting than 800 calories a day resting. Taking the right supplements can obviously fix this but someone with 150lbs of muscle can just follow basic nutrition guidelines and it is “easy”.
So how come I don’t gain weight from overeating and all my middle aged friends do?
I’m not going to pretend it’s willpower as I down a bag of kettle cooked chips to myself.
You don’t overeat.
We all get fat from genetics. Genes are directly responsible for converting blood sugar to fat.
Every aspect of weight, including influences on behavior, are caused by genes. Without genes, there’d be no learned behavior, it isn’t a chicken and egg situation.
Excess calories are converted to fat. Fasting is required to speed the reverse. Apparently, prolonged exposure to shivering cold will speed fat loss, too.
Genes create the environment where calorie intake is preferred over a calorie deficit. Genes create a body which seeks food as a primary reinforced behavior - “taste, experience, and feeding” is the title of a behavioral psychology text.
losing weight is hard, your brain, as expressed by your genes, doesn’t want to do it. There is no experience more personally triumphant in this overweight society, than getting an actual handle on your weight.
I’m surprised posters from fatlogic are still allowed in civilized society
It was a good subreddit. I got a lot of useful advice from there. Plus you got to make fun of stupid people.
It’s actually the only subreddit I ever come back to, once in a while, when I need some motivation to diet or exercise.
Yeah, about that.