• Boomer Humor Doomergod
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    12 days ago

    Millions of people involved in the health insurance industry would lose their jobs. Stock market would fall significantly, reducing retirement funds, and we’d lose 10% of our GDP.

    This is a good example of how downvotes mean “I don’t like what this post says” and not “this is wrong or inappropriate.”

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      12 days ago

      Oh won’t someone think of the operators of the orphan-crushing machine.

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          I don’t operate the orphan crushing machine.

          How many medical bankruptcies did the heroic men and women of the health insurance industry cause today? How many people are gonna die today because the infallable driver of the holy economy denied their treatment?

          Are they even people to you? Or just feed stock for the machine?

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            At a certain scale humans become numbers on a spreadsheet because that’s the only way to deal with them.

            (Some of the earliest “computers” in the US were built to handle the census more efficiently.)

            If there were fewer of us it would help make us seem more human.

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              At a certain scale humans become numbers on a spreadsheet because that’s the only way to deal with them.

              And it’s also a comfortable way to view them if your income requires denying them medical care.

              (Some of the earliest “computers” in the US were built to handle the census more efficiently.)

              Yes, IBM’s Hollerith Tabulators. Which were also used in the 40’s in Germany by people who were just doing their jobs as a vital part of the German economy. Can you believe people wanted to crash the roaring German economy in the 1940s?

              If there were fewer of us it would help make us seem more human.

              Reducing people to numbers is a great way to rationalize exploiting the sick and the dying. Which is what you’re doing.

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                They’ve already been dehumanized by the system because it’s simply not possible to treat everyone like an individual when dealing with so many people.

                At least that’s the excuse I get when I ask why I don’t fit on planes. “We need to design for the average and sorry if you don’t like it.”

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          Yes lets do that. if my work contributed to the sufferring of my country/people, i would feel lucky thats all you did

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      12 days ago

      But the rest of industries would stop paying for expensive health insurances, having more money to manage their businesses.

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        And do you really think they’ll pass that savings along to consumers or workers?

        And what will the labor market do when millions of people from an entire cross section of America - from executives to HR to IT to call centers - are suddenly looking for a job?

        And all those companies with all those retired folks invested in just disappear overnight; you think whatever party does this is gonna win the next election?

        The entire system must collapse to make this happen. And it’s gonna hurt just about everyone.

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            The health insurers employ millions of people in the US.

            That doesn’t make them good, just that there’s millions of people who will be really mad when the checks stop coming.

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              If people not going bankrupt and dying because of treatable illness bothers you personally because you have a financial stake in their exploitation, that’s your moral failure.

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                Yeah, all those people cleaning offices or answering phone calls at health insurance companies are all immoral pieces of shit.

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                  It’s neat how they’re not numbers when you want to use them as human shields for a deeply immoral industry. They’ll be numbers again as soon as they get sick.

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                    I’m not defending the industry. The industry is bullshit. I’m pointing out that there are people who depend on it for food.

                    Now if we want to get into the immorality of jobs that’s a whole other discussion.

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      Yep, you’re not wrong.

      The healthcare industry is… cancerous, in that way.

      But… you can say that we need societal chemo, and you can also say that kind of bullshit job is exactly whats going to get automated out of existence by LLMs, if we just keep doing hyper capitalism healthcare.