I’ve noticed that there seems to be an emphasis on being extremely serious at all times, as if every single comment is a PhD dissertation being evaluated or something. There’s like this weird, subtle one upmanship about every little thing and a lot of people are very nitpicky and judgmental. It kind of takes the fun out of being on here, TBH. Or am I the only one experiencing this?


another idea is that we stop putting the importance on consciousness as the rule around the morality of it at least until we can all understand consciousness more truly.
theres plenty of ideas such as sustainability, lower consumption, less harm to plants and animals (regardless of consiousness), less toiling of the earth, healthier body. these are all feasible and more important discussions to have around consumption that are backed up with facts and studies
That’s kind of an exotic approach. Normally, morality is built around the idea you shouldn’t inflict suffering on others, and to suffer requires consciousness (or something similar).
Sure, there’s other reasons to be a vegetarian as well, like just your own health and saving money.
I believe even plants have consciousness and that consciousness is a waveform
And science hasn’t really scraped the surface on any of this for any one to speak with certainties around what we should be doing around the topic of consciousness.
so there’s no real clean argument around that particular topic that will fit everyone