• mabeledo
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    Never took an Avlo before. But to be fair, they still have doors.

    Also, this is not standard procedure, not in my experience. It’s the crew’s responsibility to keep passengers safe. If the controllers or the drivers refused to manually override door locks, which is a thing, then they should be admonished or charged accordingly.

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      1 day ago

      It’s not just avlo. It’s all high speed trains. People can’t just open windows in trains going 350 km/h. Those are the long distance trains I’m talking about. No idea what trains you’re talking about.

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            4 hours ago

            I’m sorry, isn’t that better than breaking a window?

            My point is that trains do have doors and windows. Cars don’t have an advantage in that regard.

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              4 hours ago

              This is what train looks like:

              With arrows I marked where the door are (more or less). Imagine you’re sitting there with 60 people and someone opens the door at the other end of the train car. It’s 35 degrees outside. As yourself: is this really going to help you? People who talk about opening the door have no idea what they are talking about. It’s like rolling the window down 5 cm in a car sitting in direct sun.

              Windows in trains don’t open since probably 50 years ago. You can’t open a window in a train going 350 km/h. People are thinking about trains that are long gone in most of Western Europe.

              And it would be better for who exactly? If the railway company and its workers open the door and people get out they are responsible for them. Train tracks are not a very safe place to be. What if someone has an accident? And we’re talking hundredths of people. Once the train is fixed and it’s time to you, how will you make sure everyone is back? Are you going to count them? Who will do that? Railways don’t want this responsibility so for them it actually is better if people break the windows. They will let people out when the risk of someone dying from heat stroke is greater than someone injuring themselves on the tracks, not when it’s really fucking unpleasant inside.

              It’s crazy how many people how no idea how trains work.

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                2 hours ago

                Then again, how is this any different from a broken car? A car breaks down, in the middle of nowhere during summertime, and your only option is to open windows and doors until assistance arrives, which could take hours.

                You were trying to argue that a broken train is much worse than a broken car or even an aircraft, and that’s not true. Like, dude, you literally said that if you were stranded in a car in the middle of nowhere in summertime, at least you could open the windows and get out of the car. Then get out of the train too! Use the doors!

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                  2 hours ago

                  Yes, jut get out! It’s the same with airplanes. Those also have doors. If it’s stack on the runway for too long just open the emergency door and get out. It’s exactly the same as a car!

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                    32 minutes ago

                    I have never said that you should open an airplane door. I did say that in a train stuck in the middle of nowhere, you could and should.

                    Anyway, you were arguing for airplanes and against trains a minute ago. I guess this is something that trains have going on for them? That you can safely open the door if you’re stuck in the middle of nowhere.