• dustyData
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    21 hours ago

    That’s a lot of words just to reiterate what OC said. None of your examples disagree with the fact that these companies are using AI for a ton of stuff they’re not good at. And the stuff it is good at are not bottlenecks. If you removed LLMs from the face of the planet today, code quality will not suffer significantly. Sure, doing code review en masse is good. But that is not what was holding back computer programming. It’s existence is not progressing software in any significant way either. It’s a nice to have, not a must have. Code was fine for four decades without LLMs. Indeed it makes me wonder, if a machine learning model was purpose made to do code review, instead of general purpose LLMs doing it, how much better it could be, if we actually leveraged what they’re good at.

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      18 hours ago

      And the stuff it is good at are not bottlenecks.

      Disagree. Code review done right is a virtually impossible bottleneck for most companies to handle, so in the past they didn’t do it and we have the shitshow of security and other bugs that we are experiencing today.

      If you removed LLMs from the face of the planet today, code quality will not suffer significantly.

      But LLMs aren’t going anywhere, and they are already being used to find vulnerabilities by hats both white and black. They are also finding functional bugs that affect life safety and financial stability.

      Code was fine for four decades

      The way that municipal water was fine for centuries before chlorination. Cholera outbreaks were just one of those unavoidable realities, like mass school shooting events in the US.

      if a machine learning model was purpose made to do code review, instead of general purpose LLMs doing it, how much better it could be, if we actually leveraged what they’re good at.

      From what I have seen over the past year, this type of specialization is happening, and the progress is real and significant.

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        17 hours ago

        Comparing code bugs to cholera. Nice way to be utterly disconnected from reality and what really matters in life. Let’s burn the planet down and waste all of our clean water because of code review.

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          14 hours ago

          We’re getting to a point where code failures are causing deaths, large numbers of deaths… Boeing’s MAX10 was a code / design / training / management failure.