There’s diminishing returns, and we have lives outside our phones. Well, most of us. We can put a limited amount of time and energy into this, but pushing Linux requires a great deal of effort and time.
Not saying we shouldn’t also do that, but in the mean time fighting to keep the options we do have less shitty shouldn’t be completely abandoned.
@Zorque I think the point that @lIlIlIlIlIlIl is making - remember, we all want the same thing here - is that every bit of effort put into trying to force Google to act in ways that they will never act again, in the end, is going down a memory hole at the end of its ripple effect on reality. And that’s true, and worth acknowledging.
However, effort going into technical development of Linux-based portable devices, is only going to come from a select few people, and I would propose to say that the people who are working on new OSH designs for pocket computers that will eventually take the place of these corporate surveillance monoliths, these people are probably not the ones putting time into what we sometimes call “digital activism” (ie. posting on socials about justice). They post, you know, Git PRs.
So you know, you’re both right, you just need to remember that different people are working on those two goals, and keeping Android as, umm, “sideloadable” as possible while the real nerds continue to save us is a worthy thing to do, if it even delays things by a year.
There’s diminishing returns, and we have lives outside our phones. Well, most of us. We can put a limited amount of time and energy into this, but pushing Linux requires a great deal of effort and time.
Not saying we shouldn’t also do that, but in the mean time fighting to keep the options we do have less shitty shouldn’t be completely abandoned.
You’re right. The green fascists will probably change their minds and just be cool about this.
You’re right, we should just roll over instead of fighting for a better future.
My original comment’s point was we should push as hard as we can into Linux and abandon green fascism all together
And my point was that putting all your eggs in one basket, especially if they’re not even laid yet, is foolhardy.
@Zorque I think the point that @lIlIlIlIlIlIl is making - remember, we all want the same thing here - is that every bit of effort put into trying to force Google to act in ways that they will never act again, in the end, is going down a memory hole at the end of its ripple effect on reality. And that’s true, and worth acknowledging.
However, effort going into technical development of Linux-based portable devices, is only going to come from a select few people, and I would propose to say that the people who are working on new OSH designs for pocket computers that will eventually take the place of these corporate surveillance monoliths, these people are probably not the ones putting time into what we sometimes call “digital activism” (ie. posting on socials about justice). They post, you know, Git PRs.
So you know, you’re both right, you just need to remember that different people are working on those two goals, and keeping Android as, umm, “sideloadable” as possible while the real nerds continue to save us is a worthy thing to do, if it even delays things by a year.