• Ledivin
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    2 days ago

    It’s nice to have the privilege of time to research or a good education to base things off of, isn’t it? I have them, too. Poverty and oppression doesnt give over a quarter of Americans (which is also disproportionately represented in the south) that leeway.

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      2 days ago

      It’s a mistake to act as if blame is zero-sum. There’s plenty of blame to go around! Billionaires, the media, and the voters can all be responsible!

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      At some point you have to allow them their agency. They are adults, and only one of us is treating them as such.

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        Do you think you’re immune to disinformation? Oh right I forgot it’s only the other side that is being lied too you’re right everything you say and think is correct.

        • blitzen@lemmy.ca
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          I do not think I’m immune from disinformation, which means I try very hard to use critical thinking at all times. I’m suggesting they should have as well.

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            Try harder because you are drinking the coolaid if you think “the other side” deserves your reckoning.

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      If people didn’t have time to get better information, Netflix, YouTube, Facebook et al would be worthless. They are not.

      People made choices. Those choices are biting then in the ass. Education is not free. However, lack of knowledge can be fixed with some small amount of effort.

      It can be hard to get absolute truths in an age of misinformation, but there was plenty of information that was common knowledge about truno and his racism. He’d also already had a pretty awful first term, which ended in an insurrection.

      If they were fooled, it was wilful ignorance. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t also hold the misinformation machine responsible, nor welcome them back into the fold of normalcy. If we, or they, don’t recognise that they bear responsibility also, it’s going to keep happening.

    • butwhyishischinabook@anarchist.nexus
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      I don’t think you have to be particularly privileged to have the sliver of a soul necessary to be opposed to literally rounding up and mass deporting entire ethnicities. This isn’t exactly a nuanced issue, and I think it’s deeply condescending to imply that poor and uneducated people don’t have the basic moral decency to be opposed to the indiscriminate deportation of entire communities. Let’s be honest, these people thought they were white enough to be exempt. They thought they didn’t have to worry because they weren’t Haitian/Brown enough/etc.

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        You’re not immune to propaganda.

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          Nobody here is saying that anybody is immune to propaganda, what are you on?? I’m literally a determinist and even I think this is the stupidest argument. Great, conservatives have propaganda. I guess that means nobody in this world is a shitty person except Murdoch? What are you even trying to say?