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    I have no words for the US anymore. I guess this is how nazi Germany looked like

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        If America dies the whole world dies. You think we won’t fucking nuke everything on our way out? We have a pedophile narcissistic king. No one is getting out alive. The climate crisis not withstanding. So you’re fucked too either way. The earth is getting rid of humanity. But yeah America sucks right now.

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          “america dies the whole world dies”

          Wow, just fucking wow.
          BUT also, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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              He can’t even beat Iran, let alone the world, look at yourselves and realize the world goes on without America, lol.

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                I’m not talking about him beating anyone. I’m not saying the world can’t exist without America. I’m saying that he and his death cult would nuke the world before being captured or defeated.

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                    So then come and attack us nameless stateless person on the internet. Why don’t you solve this global crisis by following through on your stated goal? Death to America right? Do it then if it’s so fucking simple.

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          Based solely on your own post, do you now understand why the world hates you?

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            Fuck. You don’t know me. You think this is what I want for my country? I’m one fucking wage slave being pissed on by the oligarchs that run America like a discount Russia. Go ahead and hate me. I live in a state where my vote is like pissing into the wind and I vote every chance I get. I march and speak out and you know what runs America and the fucking world money. I hate what America is right now. But if you want to kill me then I don’t cotton to it well pardner.

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              I hate what America is right now

              Ah, so what chapter was your favorite? Was it the genocide of 90 million Native American, Indians, indigenous folks? Or maybe the slavery era? Or better yet, maybe the Jim Crow Era? Oh and how can I forget the mass incarceration era?

              … Pure liberalism.

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                My favorite part was the momentum we have had combatting those things and trying to ensure they never happen again and all of the Americans who have given their bodies lives flesh and blood in sacrifice to change those things. America isn’t one single person it’s a throng of insanity and there are a lot of people who fight against the tide of horror seeking to form a more just and perfect union and then there are a shitload of Nazis.

                Where are you from? Everyone wants to play this gotcha card like America is the only imperialist nation that has ever existed or somehow the only nation in the world that commits atrocities.

                If you really want to know my favorite part has been the mass waking up to history that has recently caused an absolute violent and fascist crackdown almost completely destroying America. So the funny thing is you will probably get your wish but you’re not gonna like it.

                What’s your countries history? Fuck I don’t even like this place but I’m not so stupid to think my hands are clean or yours are for that matter.

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                  momentum in combatting

                  Trying to ensure

                  Ah, so just vibes. Ight. The point of a system is what it does. You can keep huffing your civil religion till the cows come home.

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                    Oh fuck you’ve enlightened me let me go get my breechloading musket so I can fix this shit right away. /s

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              Fuck. You don’t know me. You think this is what I want for my country?

              That’s not the point. I am not even blaming YOU, I am blaming “America”. I guess I could have been more clear but the point is that all you said is real and a huge concern for the rest of the world. That, added to the inability of the USA to stop putting its finger in the rest of the world’s ass (and not in a fun way), means most cannot like America

              As for the rest, man you, and here I will be clear, YOU = THE AMERICAN PEOPLE need to stop thinking about your individual selves and start organizing for the benefit of the many.

              While the American people keep holding “Fuck you, Got Mine” as your core principle, you will all just keep speed running down the drain.

              Unfortunately for you (yes, you the individual now), your country is too far gone for things to change in any significant way in your lifetime. Most likely, your generation (and likely the next one as well) will need to take the steps, which will imply sacrifices, for the benefit of the generations to come

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                The American people have fuck all to do with America. You want this shit to end take it up with American corporations and stop buying our shit. From musk to Trump to Clinton to Nixon etc etc we have been wheeling and dealing with fucks from all over the world to destroy workers rights and create the trillionaire rulers. Americans are just as caught in this thing as anyone else. It’s about money and money is power, money is speech, money is extracting everything from everything and everyone and if you participate you’re a fucking American too.

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                  Do you think mid 1930s germans had fuck all to do with the Third Reich?

                  Imagine reading your comment from the perspective of a Venezuelan. It’s all just handwaving, casting blame, and evasion. It’s pure American exceptionalism, and it’s pure liberalism. “Poor widdle baby Americans deserve none of this blame :(”.

                  I encourage you to read about how fascism is actually mitigated. It’s not boycotts; it’s bullets, world wars, and sacrifice.

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                    I’ve read a lot about fascism and I agree with you about your last point.

                    However the rest of your read on the situation tells me how little you actually understand any of what’s happened/happening inside the U.S.

                    Edit: And there were people fighting the Nazis. You know what the Nazis did? They killed them all and seized power through “legitimate” elections. Jesus. At least we still have robust opposition for the moment that is the overwhelming majority but because voting in our country is so fucked up it doesn’t matter. Also you’re a dick.

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                  The American people have fuck all to do with America

                  So then you should be rioting in the streets instead of shit posting on lemmy.

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                    No disagreement here. But that’s also part of project 2025’s plan is to have mass rioting so they can formally rip apart the constitution and send the army after us. But again I don’t disagree.

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                  so your points are that this is not your fault, it’s the rest of the world’s… there is nothing you can do because any option is just too hard and/or you won’t get the credit and/or is not guaranteed to succeed…

                  Do you still wonder how fascism festered and flowrished in your country or should I spell it out more clearly?

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            Username not checking out at all. You can understand multiple things are true. That America is trash and seems hopeless, and also is important to people beyond its borders in many ways.

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              At what point would you be in favor of death to America? Your political project has gone genocidal, your economics have cemented ecocide, you’ve got secret police lynching people in the streets, and it has been shown beyond a reasonable doubt that your elected officials are all in a conspiracy to rape and traffic children. I’m guessing there is no point where you’d have any semblance of camaraderie with the third world.

              The main character syndrome in your comment is palpable.

              “Sure, we’ve done a bit of genociding Jewish people, but death to the Third Reich? Slow your roll. What about all of the people who depend on our beautiful Mercedes? What about how we as 30s germans are crucial to the international economy? Some sort of depression would increase worldwide suffering”

              Just because you are a foundational world economy doesn’t mean you get to do genocide. Fuck outta here with this handwringing, pearl clutching, imperialist, liberal, genocide apologia masquerading as utilitarianism.

              Just keep in mind the rest of the world hates you.

              “Which country is the biggest threat to world peace?”

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                What the fuck does death to America even mean? You’re super pissed at me because of a bunch of shit you made up about me and I’m not engaging anymore unless you calm down and explain what that even means first.

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                  It means death to the American experiment. It’s a failure. Fucking read what your country has done since WWII. You are the bad guys.

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                    What does that mean? Killing civilians? Since it sounds like you’re advocating for murder but are too chicken shit to admit it. So you say all this other shit because it means you don’t have to explain the murders you believe should be committed.

                    Good strategy /s

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              I can understand dozens of illegal wars, CIA black site torture dungeons, coups, mercenary groups, and dead civilians.

              Genocide and slavery.

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                Doesn’t address what I said. You cannot disprove someone’s ideas by changing the subject like you did with both me and the person who responded above. Yes america sucks. Doesn’t mean we should blindly hope for it to fail, ignoring all the fallout that innocent people will suffer. Accelerationists are the worst.

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                  Do you think people outside the British Empire during the height of its death and destruction campaign prayed for its collapse?

                  Its good for you to see what non-Americans think of your country.

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                    Accelerationists are bad people, doesn’t matter to me at all how many of them exist, they’re still morally bankrupt

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                That just seems to be par for the fucking course this day and age for super powers and their vassal states. So unless you live in isolation or are currently typing from Palestine you are part of it all too.

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                  That’s not what we’re talking about here lol, america is the global hegemon, and because of that they are uniquely equipped to mass produce death, destruction, and misery.

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                    I don’t know if you have been paying attention since 2016, fuck since 9/11, but America is not THE global hegemonic power anymore. And hasn’t been for a long time. And it is what we are talking about here because you. Have laid out a laundry list of things that America is surely guilty of and want to murder Americans and I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of just singling out America as the only hegemony with a list like this. As if it were the only country doing/having done these things. Sure it’s a whatabout but within this context it’s a very important whatabout.

                    Just out of curiosity where are you from?