That is definitely not the point of eminent domain laws, and it certainly is not that easy.
Even if California won an eminent domain case like that (which would be extremely unlikely), they’d still have to pay through the nose for the property they took.
“Oh well the State has plans for this property, so take a hike. Eminent domain, bitches.”
You have no business being in this conversation if that’s your understanding of ED cases in the US, let alone in California.
Truly one of the most uniformed takes I’ve ever heard.
they’d still have to pay through the nose for the property they took.
My grandparents had their farm taken in California via ED. I can tell you that they didn’t pay through the nose back then. Perhaps things have changed, but what they got wasn’t even close to going rates.
When was this? This is absolutely not the norm today. On the east coast We typically start at 1.2 to 1.5x the appraised value, and go up significantly more based on how much legal fight and public outrage is created.
I’ve been involved twice in my career (for around 140 properties total), with the backing of the Federal government, the FHWA in both cases in my experience, the land is the property of the state as soon as the papers are filled (referred to as ‘quicktake’, not something a state government can do without federal authority), but the legal proceedings for the total compensation can go on for 10+ years if you have the money to fight it. Total comp is often 5-20x what the property is worth plus all of the legal fees.
The only way I can possibly think of your grand parents farm being taken without them being more than well compensated, is if it happened under Eisenhower.
Look man, we’re at a point where laws obviously don’t mean what they’re supposed to mean and entire swaths of the fucking country abuse laws to get what they want, citizens be damned.
All I’m suggesting is we play hard ball, too. Why is it that Republicans are allowed BY DEMOCRATS to get away with shit. A replacement for McConnell should have been seated WEEKS AGO and then make the Republicans take them to court about it. But I mean I guess we should just be taking the law as sacred when the people beating us with sticks obviously don’t and are using their abuse of the law to get away with beating us with sticks with no consequences. But sure, playing by the rules in a system where the other party isn’t is sure to work out! Pro-tip, the rules are made up, the constitution was written by people, it’s not some perfect document handed down by fucking God and it’s clear that it is fundamentally a broken document by how its bee abused. The rules can change, and we shouldn’t be so pussy that we are afraid to change them to fight fascism.
This is a ONE TIME tax and Newsom doesn’t even have the balls for that! Just another Democrat rolling over without a fight.
The billionaires will never stop their fight to dominate and control. Every time we give up we’re just letting them steamroll us. They will break every law, tell every lie, and propagandize the populace. But sure, we can’t do one measly thing to help citizens because the billionaires might get mad and what, fight us in court? Oh no! They own the courts and plenty of us are tired of this shit.
I’m tired of being called a Nazi by Europeans and Canadians because everyone in this country is too pussy to stand up to fascism beyond signs and slogans and doing it alone is a death sentence being shot in the street by ICE.
Who is the uninformed one anyway? The one who recognizes we’re in a fascist state, or the one still pretending we can just “trust the system.” Your head is in the fucking sand, bro.
That is definitely not the point of eminent domain laws, and it certainly is not that easy.
Even if California won an eminent domain case like that (which would be extremely unlikely), they’d still have to pay through the nose for the property they took.
You have no business being in this conversation if that’s your understanding of ED cases in the US, let alone in California.
Truly one of the most uniformed takes I’ve ever heard.
My grandparents had their farm taken in California via ED. I can tell you that they didn’t pay through the nose back then. Perhaps things have changed, but what they got wasn’t even close to going rates.
Land is just an empty lot now, too.
When was this? This is absolutely not the norm today. On the east coast We typically start at 1.2 to 1.5x the appraised value, and go up significantly more based on how much legal fight and public outrage is created.
I’ve been involved twice in my career (for around 140 properties total), with the backing of the Federal government, the FHWA in both cases in my experience, the land is the property of the state as soon as the papers are filled (referred to as ‘quicktake’, not something a state government can do without federal authority), but the legal proceedings for the total compensation can go on for 10+ years if you have the money to fight it. Total comp is often 5-20x what the property is worth plus all of the legal fees.
The only way I can possibly think of your grand parents farm being taken without them being more than well compensated, is if it happened under Eisenhower.
Look man, we’re at a point where laws obviously don’t mean what they’re supposed to mean and entire swaths of the fucking country abuse laws to get what they want, citizens be damned.
All I’m suggesting is we play hard ball, too. Why is it that Republicans are allowed BY DEMOCRATS to get away with shit. A replacement for McConnell should have been seated WEEKS AGO and then make the Republicans take them to court about it. But I mean I guess we should just be taking the law as sacred when the people beating us with sticks obviously don’t and are using their abuse of the law to get away with beating us with sticks with no consequences. But sure, playing by the rules in a system where the other party isn’t is sure to work out! Pro-tip, the rules are made up, the constitution was written by people, it’s not some perfect document handed down by fucking God and it’s clear that it is fundamentally a broken document by how its bee abused. The rules can change, and we shouldn’t be so pussy that we are afraid to change them to fight fascism.
This is a ONE TIME tax and Newsom doesn’t even have the balls for that! Just another Democrat rolling over without a fight.
The billionaires will never stop their fight to dominate and control. Every time we give up we’re just letting them steamroll us. They will break every law, tell every lie, and propagandize the populace. But sure, we can’t do one measly thing to help citizens because the billionaires might get mad and what, fight us in court? Oh no! They own the courts and plenty of us are tired of this shit.
I’m tired of being called a Nazi by Europeans and Canadians because everyone in this country is too pussy to stand up to fascism beyond signs and slogans and doing it alone is a death sentence being shot in the street by ICE.
Who is the uninformed one anyway? The one who recognizes we’re in a fascist state, or the one still pretending we can just “trust the system.” Your head is in the fucking sand, bro.