• Cyclohexane
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    391 year ago

    Even if it kills (which it likely will), our track record shows that didn’t care enough about that, and in a decreasing manner. So it’ll only be worse.

    • @[email protected]
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      81 year ago

      Pretty sure every virus has killed people, from the cold, to flu, and of course covid. It feels like now the death rate for the latest variants of covid are pretty comparable to the flu, the virus has lost a lot of its killing power over time.

      • Mbourgon everywhere
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        11 year ago

        I’ve you’ve been vaxxed, or had a previous infection, or get some paxlovid… yes. If not, no, not really any better. It hasn’t gotten weaker.

      • queermunist she/her
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        -21 year ago

        Death rates aren’t a feeling. I want some hard numbers.

        I feel like we just don’t care if we live or die anymore.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 year ago

          I know I’ve read reports about the latest variants being much less deadly. I did see one study recently which for patients presenting to hospital covid was a few percentage points more likely to result in death compared to hospitalized flu patients. There were a lot more covid patients though.

          Found it:

          death rates among people hospitalized for COVID-19 were 17% to 21% in 2020 vs 6% in this study, while death rates for those hospitalized for influenza were 3.8% in 2020 vs 3.7% in this study

          https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2803749

          So there is some data backing up the feelings I’ve gotten from everything I’ve been hearing and seeing.

          • Mbourgon everywhere
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            01 year ago

            There’s one crucial thing you overlooked in this: in 2020, most people hadn’t been infected, and hadn’t gotten the vaccine (because there was no vaccine until December,and even then it was in extremely short supply). Now, most people have some sort of immunity, be it from vaccine or from a prior infection. That definitely skews the hospitalization numbers downward. You can’t compare then and now, unfortunately, since there’s no real community that hasn’t been vaccinated and hasn’t caught it - and so you can’t compare their numbers.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              That’s fair, but I think you can still compare it to the flu, which is not that far off from covid percentage wise. At this point both the flu and covid should be at an equal level of people having vaccines and natural antibodies, right? Even if you go with covid being about twice as deadly as the flu, twice as deadly as almost nothing is still almost nothing.

            • @[email protected]
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              01 year ago

              I mean, that’s one way to look at it. I looked at it as only a couple percent higher death rate than the flu. Either way, a little less than 2x is way better than like 5x worse.

              • queermunist she/her
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                -41 year ago

                Obviously it’s better than before, but it’s also worth keeping in mind these deaths are in addition to the flu.

                Also, there are good and bad flu seasons. I see no reason for COVID to not be the same.

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 year ago

                  Even if we pedantically accept that ‘almost double’ is really ‘just a few percent higher’ while we’re looking at a single digit likelihood, ‘just a few percent more’ than for the flu is a lot more people in overall numbers with something that spreads far quicker than the flu. We could get the death rate of Covid down to ½ the rate for the flu but if infections are more than double (this is just an example, I don’t know the actual stats on this one), it still means Covid would be more deadly. Unless I’m missing something obvious.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    21 year ago

                    COVID is basically a year round disease where flu is seasonal. So yeah it’s gonna produce about an order of magnitude more death with just a few percent higher death rate.