It’s been a while! Let us know what you’re currently working on, what exploded, what cool stuff you found, or just brag that everything is running fine unattended.

I haven’t been doing a lot, renovate auto upgrades for patches and sometimes minor updates work great so far. I got involved in my union to spin up a mastodon server soon, so there’s a new project, but I already run mastodon so it shouldn’t be much of a deal, I just need to get comfortable with the infrastructure. I also set up ntfy but only sent some test notifications and didn’t configure any app yet - planned for Element Chat.

[Meta] I’m not sure how to apply the new tags. In the recent versions of this thread, people sometimes posted about their ollama setup or the like, but I’m not mentioning AI in the post body (except this meta thingy) and it shouldn’t be much of the discussion, but it’s an open post. Maybe curbstickle can chime in to let me know if I should apply one of them.

  • brucethemoose
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    23 hours ago

    Be aware that you pay a significant performance penalty for going over occulink.

    The hit modest for fully offloaded dense models (like Qwen 27B), but dramatic for hybrid inference of big MoEs.

    Even my old 3090 got a noticeable performance gain going from a PCIe 3.0 x16 riser to a PCIe 4.0 one.

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      15 hours ago

      Be aware that you pay a significant performance penalty for going over occulink.

      And that’s why it’s tentative. The reason I’m leaning towards the dock is that, while the 5090 will fit, physically in the case, I am worried about heat dissipation. Even now, when I fire up a moderate model and run it through some paces, I can see the temps rising fairly quickly. So, if I’m going to drop that kind of cabbage on a 5090, the one thing I don’t want to do is watch it turn into a shrink-i-dink.

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        6 hours ago

        Duct it!

        I have a 400W 3090 with zero case fans.

        Its always cool, because I bought like $10 of weather stripping to “seal” its intakes against the edge of an SFF case. So it’s always sucking in ambient air:

        You can also severely undervolt a 5090 to like 250-300W, with very little performance impact. Honestly its stock speeds are kind of crazy.

        …But again, you aren’t gaining much over a 4090. A 4090 + DDR4 threadripper would be way faster than a 5090 + occulink, for many reasons. And TR CPUs are pretty reasonably priced compared to GPUs these days.


        But even if you do go 5090, I’d highly recommend finding some way to shove it in the case and duct some air into its intakes. Its going to be way faster on a PCIe slot.

        You could even get a riser and mount it somewhere else in the case, theoretically.