I’d argue that tankies are doing a bangup job of making Lemmy look unappealing. And in my country at least half of the parties (supposedly) left of the “social democrats” (neoliberals) are tankies, which is actually a huge problem for recruiting new voters for parties that want more worker’s rights, and some of these tankie parties are also literally voting with the extreme right.
German democracy has a lot of niche systems and ways of operating. I’m not talking about Germany but even there the AfD result is overwhelming of greater risk than tankies. So you’re being quite ridiculous.
“I’m afraid the center right Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats are all tankies”.
That’s not what rumschlumpel said. Also I wont tolerate whataboutism to defend tankies here. You are everywhere in the thread defending tankies and in the modlog you were banned in other places for bootlicking. So I am putting a stop to your time here.
What’s your point? I’ve seen tankies calling them fascists and zionists. They’re both wrong.
Two things can be wrong. This “one side can’t be a problem because the other side is a problem” argument is really juvenile and completely illogical. I can’t believe some people still try to use it.
Tankies are not a boon to the left. Wake the fuck up and smell the roses.
Right populism is GLOBALLY a greater risk by the numbers, proportionally, and by the consequences, by any metric you can offer.
Nobody here is denying that, but that’s irrelevant to this conversation because we’re not talking about who the biggest global threat is.
I’m doing “tankies are such a minority that people who bother even thinking about them are embarrassing themselves”.
That’s pathetic. We’re on lemmy. There are tankies here. They pop up often enough that the rest of us can bond over calling them out. Get over yourself.
It’s like you’ve been shot and you’re complaining that the dust kicked up might get into your lungs. Why are you spending your time on the dust. Get medical attention!
No it’s like I’ve been shot and I’m annoyed with the dude who’s standing to the side laughing instead of calling an ambulance and saying things like “HA! Stupid shitlib, you deserved that! I hope you die because I saw you breathing yesterday and people in Africa could have used that oxygen. You’re such a terrible person. I actually agree with the fascist who shot you because I hate you too. Oh by the way I think you’re a fascist because you’re a democratic socialist instead of a bolshevik like me.”
Tankies are a few particles of dust.
Not on lemmy, which is where we are if you haven’t noticed…
When no small number of Tankies want to trap us in the car for the sake of spurring on class consciousness and a crisis of capitalism, then yeah, that kind of a squeaky door could be a legitimate problem too. And those who aren’t accelerationists are either too quiet with their support or, on the other hand, hardly do anything but complain about everything as though it’s the worst possible thing ever, which reduces voter engagement because it’s hard to be excited to actually go out and vote when you have to choose between the lesser of two genocide-level evils.
Establishment democrats calling anyone further left of them “extremist” is the problem.
“Tankies are attacking me!” is the Reddit version of “Muslims keep existing and that’s scary!” in mainstream press.
It isn’t even “further left”. You can be a boilerplate liberal and you’ll get called a Tankie for saying genocide is bad. Talking like a Clintonite from the 1990s is “too left” for Schumercrats of the modern era.
FFS, Maine nominated an actual literally Fascist to the Senate because he was more dovish than the governor. That’s what qualifies as a Leftist these days. A blackwater mercenary who developed a conscious.
No, you’ll get called a tankie for being a bolshevik and promoting authoritarianism. Literally no one is calling liberals tankies. The only people I’ve ever even seen using the word tankie are leftists, the sane ones, who are using it to deride authoritarian-minded leftists whose goal seems to be to make every leftist space a miserable, hellish, and hostile environment for anyone less left than a bolshevik.
Tankies give the right wing all the pretext they need to justify the caricatures they paint of the entire left as being “radical communist extremists” or whatever other bullshit they say.
Stop pretending tankies are some protected class that’s being persecuted and we all need to handle them with kiddie gloves so we don’t hurt their feefees. It’s not the same thing as islamophobia at all, and it’s preposterous that you would even attempt to equate the two. Also, this isn’t fucking reddit.
No, you get call a tankie for being a ML who defends crimes against humanity and looking at your modlog, you have been doing a lot of bootlicking. PugJesus’ bans of tankies helps me clean up here pretty early on because I know PJ is usually right when banning tankies.
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I’d argue that tankies are doing a bangup job of making Lemmy look unappealing. And in my country at least half of the parties (supposedly) left of the “social democrats” (neoliberals) are tankies, which is actually a huge problem for recruiting new voters for parties that want more worker’s rights, and some of these tankie parties are also literally voting with the extreme right.
i.e. ¿Por qué no los dos?
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Find it funny they ban people this community agrees with. Can’t wait for this echo chamber to spread misinfo like MWoG!
You’re German. What you’re describing is proportional voting where issues matter more than parties in your country.
You’re basically sitting in the luxury car version of a democracy complaining the engine works too well.
Look at your last election results, you’re really complaining that the Social Democrats are tankies?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/2025_German_federal_election.svg/960px-2025_German_federal_election.svg.png
German democracy has a lot of niche systems and ways of operating. I’m not talking about Germany but even there the AfD result is overwhelming of greater risk than tankies. So you’re being quite ridiculous.
That’s some bull sheeeeeit.
That’s not what rumschlumpel said. Also I wont tolerate whataboutism to defend tankies here. You are everywhere in the thread defending tankies and in the modlog you were banned in other places for bootlicking. So I am putting a stop to your time here.
Yes I see what you mean.
Although there is a whole world outside of USA. This is feddit.org… You’re going to encounter people who are not assuming a US-centric discussion.
You’re not allowed to call out Germans for doing things Germans do. That’s evil!!!
You come onto an anti-tankie comm to complain about it being anti-tankie and say “what about the democrats?”. Are you fucking serious?
I wonder how Poland felt when it was being crushed between the nazis and the soviets…
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What’s your point? I’ve seen tankies calling them fascists and zionists. They’re both wrong.
Two things can be wrong. This “one side can’t be a problem because the other side is a problem” argument is really juvenile and completely illogical. I can’t believe some people still try to use it.
Tankies are not a boon to the left. Wake the fuck up and smell the roses.
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Nobody here is denying that, but that’s irrelevant to this conversation because we’re not talking about who the biggest global threat is.
That’s pathetic. We’re on lemmy. There are tankies here. They pop up often enough that the rest of us can bond over calling them out. Get over yourself.
No it’s like I’ve been shot and I’m annoyed with the dude who’s standing to the side laughing instead of calling an ambulance and saying things like “HA! Stupid shitlib, you deserved that! I hope you die because I saw you breathing yesterday and people in Africa could have used that oxygen. You’re such a terrible person. I actually agree with the fascist who shot you because I hate you too. Oh by the way I think you’re a fascist because you’re a democratic socialist instead of a bolshevik like me.”
Not on lemmy, which is where we are if you haven’t noticed…
There can be multiple problems. Hard to fit them all in one meme though.
I really dislike memes as a starting point for any political discussion, for this reason.
When no small number of Tankies want to trap us in the car for the sake of spurring on class consciousness and a crisis of capitalism, then yeah, that kind of a squeaky door could be a legitimate problem too. And those who aren’t accelerationists are either too quiet with their support or, on the other hand, hardly do anything but complain about everything as though it’s the worst possible thing ever, which reduces voter engagement because it’s hard to be excited to actually go out and vote when you have to choose between the lesser of two genocide-level evils.
“Tankies are attacking me!” is the Reddit version of “Muslims keep existing and that’s scary!” in mainstream press.
It isn’t even “further left”. You can be a boilerplate liberal and you’ll get called a Tankie for saying genocide is bad. Talking like a Clintonite from the 1990s is “too left” for Schumercrats of the modern era.
FFS, Maine nominated an actual literally Fascist to the Senate because he was more dovish than the governor. That’s what qualifies as a Leftist these days. A blackwater mercenary who developed a conscious.
No, you’ll get called a tankie for being a bolshevik and promoting authoritarianism. Literally no one is calling liberals tankies. The only people I’ve ever even seen using the word tankie are leftists, the sane ones, who are using it to deride authoritarian-minded leftists whose goal seems to be to make every leftist space a miserable, hellish, and hostile environment for anyone less left than a bolshevik.
Tankies give the right wing all the pretext they need to justify the caricatures they paint of the entire left as being “radical communist extremists” or whatever other bullshit they say.
Stop pretending tankies are some protected class that’s being persecuted and we all need to handle them with kiddie gloves so we don’t hurt their feefees. It’s not the same thing as islamophobia at all, and it’s preposterous that you would even attempt to equate the two. Also, this isn’t fucking reddit.
No, you get call a tankie for being a ML who defends crimes against humanity and looking at your modlog, you have been doing a lot of bootlicking. PugJesus’ bans of tankies helps me clean up here pretty early on because I know PJ is usually right when banning tankies.
Shh. Go away.