He detailed some of his planning leading up to the murder. He said that he was motivated by years of back pain and what he believed was a health insurance system working against him. He said that, once he learned that the UnitedHealthcare Company was holding an investor summit in Manhattan, he e-mailed company leadership posing as an investor to get information about where and when this meeting was taking place.
And that’s how he was able to confront Brian Thompson. Mangione also shared an observation with the judge that had clearly made an impression on him. He talked about how, while he was posing as a wealthy investor, leadership e-mailed him back within an hour, and he said that was in stark contrast to his interactions with insurers as a patient.
I find it impossible to be upset about Luigi stalking and killing someone who has killed tens of thousands of people for money.
In fact, I wish he had never been caught.
HeLuigi actually saved life. Insurance companies were approving everything for a few weeks after the killing.He, being Luigi.
Good call out. Edited.
Woudn’t that be an angle for the defense? Greater good?
No. That’s not how the law works.
Yeah… I know…
I still don’t think he did it. Hes just trying to pretend to be the greatest hero in all american history.
Yea I know, we were hanging out that night and he was telling me “man I’d totally lie to steal the glory from a killer, everyone would think I’m SO cool”. He frustrates me sometimes but how can I be mad at THAT face
Taking the fall so the real guy can plan the next one.
I was there too and just thought to myself “That is so Luigi”
Lu be cray sometimes, it’s true
I don’t think he is. This happened just before the state trial, even though they dropped the federal murder charge.
IANAL, but I wonder if the admission is some sort of push to kill the NY trial due to double jeopardy?
Then again, I’m a random idiot on the Internet so I’m probably way off base.
I’ve seen a number of analysts on whether it would count on double jeopardy. Notably, NY prosecutors claim that it doesn’t.
I suspect that prosecutors would say that, but ultimately that would be the judge’s job, right?
That’s my understanding. I actually just saw an article today about where it stands. I believe any rulings on the matter can be appealed by either side, all the way up to SCOTUS.
https://apnews.com/article/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-ceo-postponed-plea-09c039f61c62d2c0e8815ea0189f0522
A very strongly suspect that you’re right about appeals.
I think that this is going to get drug out for a very long time.
This is also de Nile.
Him never getting caught would have been a much better outcome. The specter that strikes fear in the blackened souls of healthcare CEOs would still be at large. They’d have to scale back on their penny-pinching tactics or forever have to sleep with one eye open and be constantly looking over their shoulder in public.
I don’t either, really, but CEOs are under pressure from the board of directors and investors to constantly and relentlessly increase profits. If it wasn’t that Thompson asshole, it would have just been another one. It’s not one evil man, it’s the whole system.
The system requires evil men to do that job. You can say it’d just be another, but they’ll run out of them pretty quick if there are consequences to their actions
Oh, I agree. But the consequences are usually in the form of big bonuses for the perpetrators. The law protects them. We have to scrap the system.
Or we could just pass a law mandating that they have to approve any request made by a doctor unless they can show clear evidence of fraud.
This will probably cause a collapse of most of the health insurance industry, which shouldn’t exist in its current form anyway.
Don’t give them an “unless”. They do it first. Then if there is fraud their lawyers can litigate later.
Bernie Sanders Universal Healthcare Mandate: Am I a joke to you?
I meant like Luigi consequences. Maybe a French shave
Too easy.
“Shareholders” is, purposefully, an abstract notion. CEO’s and C-Suite in general are the willful instruments of evil.
“Greed is good.”
“There is one and only one social responsibility of business—to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game.”
Fuck Milton Friedman. Do I think he makes cold logical sense? Yes, but that’s precisely the problem, his philosophy is devoid of warmth and humanity. His ideas are what led to where we are now. Friedman is the AI agentic machine in the flesh if put in charge. Now that i think about it, he’s probably the Terminator but instead of using physical violence to achieve results, he’s using cold logical argument to convince others that “greed is good” and to abandon social responsibility, leading to suffering caused by administrative decisions.
The problem isn’t that he’s cold and logical. Cold? Yes. Logical? Only in the context of the game we are playing. This reasoning is not logical when applied to a society. Society is not a game. Life is not a game. Business IS a game and the principle of that game is stone simple. The problem is seeing the game and society as the same thing. They aren’t. That is why you don’t ever want to run a government like a business. A business is much simpler.
It’s actually really easy to not be a shitbag healthcare CEO. I’m doing it right now, in fact! And so are you! Anyone doing that has actively chosen to do so. They don’t have to.
Ok then get a different job. All problems solved.
This is some bullshit, nobody is out there forcing people to be healthcare CEOs
“I was just following orders.”
Then we should start taking out more of them.
You can’t make me feel sorry for him.
You’re right, it’s the billionaires at the top, plus everyone who supports or defends them.
Hollywood has certainly fed us a lot of stories about a dogged investigator tracking down and stopping a serial killer.