“As possible” is a key concept here. They’ll want to avoid anything illegal or likely to get them sued.
You realize that there are many big companies that use Windows that have a ton of proprietary information on them, that would go completely nuclear on Microsoft if Windows started leaking that information into an AI-training project?
Microsoft has done things multiple times that were blatantly illegal, and a couple of times ran afoul of governments, yet they still did new illegal things after that - as well as going right back to doing the things they were busted for before. There’s no evidence that they are concerned with anyone suing them or ‘going nuclear’ if they aren’t even worried about nation states that have come after them before.
Those companies likely pay for the enterprise version which doesn’t have all that garbage. I guarantee you that Windows for home users is mining as much data as possible.
“training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft” is rather a big jump from “report lots of telemetry data.”
I’m not saying people shouldn’t be paying attention, but this thread is jumping straight from “there’s a potential risk here” to “OMG Windows is spyware, delete everything!” There’s already a lot of hysteria surrounding AI, let’s not go nuts without some kind of actual reason.
“now now, calm down everyone. Let’s see what the Orphan-Crushing Machine really does before we start getting upset. Just because it is fully capable of (and seems exclusively designed to) crush all orphans doesn’t mean it is actually going to crush ALL the orphans. Probably just a few orphans really.”
There is a reason Microsoft stopped caring a long time ago that it is so easy to install and use Windows without paying for a key. You can STILL use any old windows 7 key you have to active windows 10 and 11. You can use the OS nearly in it’s entirety (as far as home users are concerned) without even doing that. It is because Windows is no longer Microsoft’s biggest product, the user is.
Just like Cortana, however, there will be a way to disable it via Group Policy somehow. That’s because government institutions that use Windows will not be happy with there being a feature in the OS that is capable of listening to a microphone and transmitting what it hears to a third party. I know Cortana can take voice commands, and I’d doubt their AI thingy will be much different in the user facing implementation.
Probably. It will be an “essential” part of the OS, like Edge.
Which means it’ll probably be training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft
Sounds like a good reason to get rid of windows 😁
I mean, Windows itself has been a good reason to get rid of Windows for a long time.
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Yes, all these imagined outrages are definitely a good reason for that.
You can’t honestly believe that Microsoft won’t be harvesting as much data as possible with their AI search.
“As possible” is a key concept here. They’ll want to avoid anything illegal or likely to get them sued.
You realize that there are many big companies that use Windows that have a ton of proprietary information on them, that would go completely nuclear on Microsoft if Windows started leaking that information into an AI-training project?
Microsoft has done things multiple times that were blatantly illegal, and a couple of times ran afoul of governments, yet they still did new illegal things after that - as well as going right back to doing the things they were busted for before. There’s no evidence that they are concerned with anyone suing them or ‘going nuclear’ if they aren’t even worried about nation states that have come after them before.
Those companies likely pay for the enterprise version which doesn’t have all that garbage. I guarantee you that Windows for home users is mining as much data as possible.
Yep. A lot of what you do is already being reported back to Microsoft though.
And most likely they’ll come 'round to your house and harvest your organs while you sleep, too.
Where are these “probable” scenarios coming from? This seems kind of overboard.
I mean Windows 11 right now harvests a lot of data about your PC, so I don’t think it’s a stretch exactly.
“training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft” is rather a big jump from “report lots of telemetry data.”
I’m not saying people shouldn’t be paying attention, but this thread is jumping straight from “there’s a potential risk here” to “OMG Windows is spyware, delete everything!” There’s already a lot of hysteria surrounding AI, let’s not go nuts without some kind of actual reason.
“now now, calm down everyone. Let’s see what the Orphan-Crushing Machine really does before we start getting upset. Just because it is fully capable of (and seems exclusively designed to) crush all orphans doesn’t mean it is actually going to crush ALL the orphans. Probably just a few orphans really.”
There is a reason Microsoft stopped caring a long time ago that it is so easy to install and use Windows without paying for a key. You can STILL use any old windows 7 key you have to active windows 10 and 11. You can use the OS nearly in it’s entirety (as far as home users are concerned) without even doing that. It is because Windows is no longer Microsoft’s biggest product, the user is.
Just like Cortana, however, there will be a way to disable it via Group Policy somehow. That’s because government institutions that use Windows will not be happy with there being a feature in the OS that is capable of listening to a microphone and transmitting what it hears to a third party. I know Cortana can take voice commands, and I’d doubt their AI thingy will be much different in the user facing implementation.
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easy enough to just block telemetry