Yeah I’m sure some, probably most unfortunately, are doubting simply because they’re becoming pariahs, but still, that initial selfish reason could open their eyes to the actual reason that they’re being treated that way. It’s not very likely I realize, but it still feels like the wrong move to bully them for expressing any doubt at this point.
When they’re actively doing fascist shit, absolutely bully the ever-living fuck outta them haha, because you’re right, it does work. But the reaction to any sort of self-reflection they show should be something more like harsh criticism with underlying support rather than straight-up bullying. Because we all know how astoundingly rare it is to find any level of self-reflection whatsoever in these kinds of people, so we need to use opportunities like this to encourage any kind of doubt to grow. Even if it doesn’t lead them entirely to a more progressive point of view (because again I realize that’s not super likely) it could be enough at least to drive them away from MAGAtry, and any way we can fracture fascism is good
Just to add to your point on how selfish or otherwise internally focused emotions can break people away from reactionary ideologies. I was pushed to the left starting in highschool because I came to the conclusion that Musk was an irredeemable fuckweasle circa 2015 and similarly Trump sets off too many of my “No bad” instincts that in 2016 I started to drift away from the reactionary ideology I was raised on. Note it took till about 2019 for everything to solidify into the proto version of my current ideology but still.
Though to call my internal systems of morality and ethics an ideology is rather generous given the fact its basically me being a feral asshole proposing to kill/maim/torture politicians and billionaires until ideally I run out of piss rags to commit crimes against humanity on. As ive said in the past, I am not better than my ancestors and given how they were bandits and slavers that’s saying s lot. But hey at least I want to kill people who mostly deserve it.
Yeah I’m sure some, probably most unfortunately, are doubting simply because they’re becoming pariahs, but still, that initial selfish reason could open their eyes to the actual reason that they’re being treated that way. It’s not very likely I realize, but it still feels like the wrong move to bully them for expressing any doubt at this point.
When they’re actively doing fascist shit, absolutely bully the ever-living fuck outta them haha, because you’re right, it does work. But the reaction to any sort of self-reflection they show should be something more like harsh criticism with underlying support rather than straight-up bullying. Because we all know how astoundingly rare it is to find any level of self-reflection whatsoever in these kinds of people, so we need to use opportunities like this to encourage any kind of doubt to grow. Even if it doesn’t lead them entirely to a more progressive point of view (because again I realize that’s not super likely) it could be enough at least to drive them away from MAGAtry, and any way we can fracture fascism is good
Reinforcing their doubts is the way to go. Keep planting the seeds of cognitive dissonance.
Just to add to your point on how selfish or otherwise internally focused emotions can break people away from reactionary ideologies. I was pushed to the left starting in highschool because I came to the conclusion that Musk was an irredeemable fuckweasle circa 2015 and similarly Trump sets off too many of my “No bad” instincts that in 2016 I started to drift away from the reactionary ideology I was raised on. Note it took till about 2019 for everything to solidify into the proto version of my current ideology but still.
Though to call my internal systems of morality and ethics an ideology is rather generous given the fact its basically me being a feral asshole proposing to kill/maim/torture politicians and billionaires until ideally I run out of piss rags to commit crimes against humanity on. As ive said in the past, I am not better than my ancestors and given how they were bandits and slavers that’s saying s lot. But hey at least I want to kill people who mostly deserve it.