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If your answer to “how do we figure out what is moral” is to just throw up your hands and amorally accept the same system that burned witches at the stake, then I don’t see how we are even on the same planet, morally speaking.
People were murdered in the name of Catholicism for being the wrong religion. Indigenous people were forcibly converted to that religion because they thought they knew better than the people who were living just fine without that nonsense. They starved babies and threw them in wells. They enslaved women in Ireland.
We know what is moral because we know how we like to be treated. We’ve agreed as a society what is acceptable or not. We have certain minimum rights that we accept in our social contact. There is no need for magic to explain any of this. The fact that people disagree on morality is a point against your god.
Of course atheists have caused death, but atheism is not an ideology. It’s an answer to a single question, which is why I’d specified humanists.
Like I said, we know what the Catholic Church does when it’s in power: whatever it can get away with.
If your answer to “how do we figure out what is moral” is to just throw up your hands and amorally accept the same system that burned witches at the stake, then I don’t see how we are even on the same planet, morally speaking.
Your system, not prescribing any morals, allows for people to believe it is moral to burn whoever they want at the stake for whatever reason, which would be arguably worse, no?
We know what is moral because we know how we like to be treated. We’ve agreed as a society what is acceptable or not. We have certain minimum rights that we accept in our social contact. There is no need for magic to explain any of this.
You know this is no solution to the problem: one person may like to be treated differently than another, different societies decide what is acceptable or not, the rights aren’t guaranteed by social contract.
Of course atheists have caused death
This is your answer for Catholics and Catholicism though, it’s not all Catholics that have done this
Your system, not prescribing any morals, allows for people to believe it is moral to burn whoever they want at the stake for whatever reason, which would be arguably worse, no?
Why do you think humanists burn people at the stake? What a ridiculous thing to say.
You know this is no solution to the problem: one person may like to be treated differently than another, different societies decide what is acceptable or not, the rights aren’t guaranteed by social contract.
And how does a god that I don’t believe in because it’s ridiculous help the situation?
This is your answer for Catholics and Catholicism though, it’s not all Catholics that have done this
Absolutely not. One can be a humanist and a Catholic Christian; they are not exclusive. Rather, the humanism what makes them have an actual moral system instead of just accepting what the church has to say. Again, see genocide and witch burning.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and also assuming that you know things which you have not investigated.
If your answer to “how do we figure out what is moral” is to just throw up your hands and amorally accept the same system that burned witches at the stake, then I don’t see how we are even on the same planet, morally speaking.
People were murdered in the name of Catholicism for being the wrong religion. Indigenous people were forcibly converted to that religion because they thought they knew better than the people who were living just fine without that nonsense. They starved babies and threw them in wells. They enslaved women in Ireland.
We know what is moral because we know how we like to be treated. We’ve agreed as a society what is acceptable or not. We have certain minimum rights that we accept in our social contact. There is no need for magic to explain any of this. The fact that people disagree on morality is a point against your god.
Of course atheists have caused death, but atheism is not an ideology. It’s an answer to a single question, which is why I’d specified humanists.
Like I said, we know what the Catholic Church does when it’s in power: whatever it can get away with.
Your system, not prescribing any morals, allows for people to believe it is moral to burn whoever they want at the stake for whatever reason, which would be arguably worse, no?
You know this is no solution to the problem: one person may like to be treated differently than another, different societies decide what is acceptable or not, the rights aren’t guaranteed by social contract.
This is your answer for Catholics and Catholicism though, it’s not all Catholics that have done this
Why do you think humanists burn people at the stake? What a ridiculous thing to say.
And how does a god that I don’t believe in because it’s ridiculous help the situation?
Absolutely not. One can be a humanist and a Catholic Christian; they are not exclusive. Rather, the humanism what makes them have an actual moral system instead of just accepting what the church has to say. Again, see genocide and witch burning.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and also assuming that you know things which you have not investigated.